Fallen for a potential iPhone scam - 3pinproducts.com

Aylesbury_Duck

happypie said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Cloudbowski said:

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth said:

LipMarck said:

So, if you want your money back then talk with your bank. 3PP ain't gonna give it back.

Why should my bank refund you because suddenly you have buyers remorse? You bought cheap! Expect tac!

'why should the police arrest that assailant for punching you in the face, it was clear he was going to do it, why didn't you block the punch?' 
Maybe because they've been scammed and there's laws protecting consumers?
Also, stop bandying round 'buyers' remorse', this isn't that.

What are you on about, it literally is buyer's remorse.  It fits the definition perfectly: The sense of regret after having made a purchase.

To the best of my recollection (and forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not re-reading 15 pages of speculation to check), no one on here has evidently been scammed.  Yet.  Once the delivery dates have come and gone and if no product arrives then yes, it will look like a scam but so far everyone has got exactly what they ordered and knew they were ordering: the promise of a cheap gadget with an exceptionally long lead time.

You are being ignorant while trying to be logical, probably because its not your money which is at stack.
You really can't see this is a scam??
Trust pilot reviews are fake.
No genuine forum user received a phone yet.
Seller can't cancel even though phone isn't going to arrive to buyers home directly, its going to arrive to their UK store/warehouse and they will dispatch it using royal mail? Why can't they refund and save some cost of sending to buyer and return postage?

This is as clear as it can be, don't try to defend seller just for the sake of it.

Err....I've said from the start this is dodgy.  When the OP asked "Is this too good to be true?", I was the very first responder, saying: 

Of course.  There's a reason people pay the RRP.  Do you honestly think you'd be getting a completely genuine, warranty-backed iPhone for half price?  

So no, I'm not defending the seller.  What I am doing is pointing out that people have willingly bought items from this retailer, knowing that they are much cheaper than normal and knowing about the long lead times.  Now they're panicking because they think they've been conned, when to date, it doesn't look like anyone's delivery timescale has elapsed.  

I fully expect some or all of these purchases to not materialise and if they do, heaven help the buyers if there are any problems with them.  That's the price you pay for the sake of wanting a "bargain", when all the evidence suggested it was anything but.  

born_again

AbsBerks said:

 Please don’t pretend, you know what I am talking about and I have mail from TP as evidence, enough for me to claim prove to my bank whats going on and why I am claiming a refund.

Just what do you think the bank is going to do with this information?
As I said previously. Banks do not police retailers. That would be trading standards remit, or if you believe it's outright fraud (yet to be proved) you need to get the police involved (good luck with that one)
That info is not enough for your bank to get your money back. How to do so has already been explained.

born_again

Cloudbowski said:

Exposing a potentially criminal operation on a forum where people come for advice on such matters, is not buyers remorse, no one here has bought something expensive they don't need or spent too much on. They're worried they've been scammed, which is totally different to regretting a legitimate purchase. 
This thread has already stopped people making the same mistake (yes, yet to be confirmed it's a mistake), it's berserk you seem to feel so much contempt for the buyers and a kind of 'tricked 'em fair and square' stance with the (potential) scammer. 

Interesting to note that this thread is not exposing anything.
All the new posters joining in have already fallen for the "If it is too good to be true" Offer "It is"
Has anyone seen a post saying "Thanks you stopped me falling for this "To good to be true offer?"

Trouble is now all the useful advice is lost within the 15 page mire that this thread has become.

And for anyone thinking going to their bank and using "Buyers Remorse" it is not a valid reason for a refund via them either by Chargeback or S75.

Aylesbury_Duck

Cloudbowski said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Cloudbowski said:

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth said:

LipMarck said:

So, if you want your money back then talk with your bank. 3PP ain't gonna give it back.

Why should my bank refund you because suddenly you have buyers remorse? You bought cheap! Expect tac!

'why should the police arrest that assailant for punching you in the face, it was clear he was going to do it, why didn't you block the punch?' 
Maybe because they've been scammed and there's laws protecting consumers?
Also, stop bandying round 'buyers' remorse', this isn't that.

What are you on about, it literally is buyer's remorse.  It fits the definition perfectly: The sense of regret after having made a purchase.

To the best of my recollection (and forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not re-reading 15 pages of speculation to check), no one on here has evidently been scammed.  Yet.  Once the delivery dates have come and gone and if no product arrives then yes, it will look like a scam but so far everyone has got exactly what they ordered and knew they were ordering: the promise of a cheap gadget with an exceptionally long lead time.

Exposing a potentially criminal operation on a forum where people come for advice on such matters, is not buyers remorse, no one here has bought something expensive they don't need or spent too much on. They're worried they've been scammed, which is totally different to regretting a legitimate purchase. 
This thread has already stopped people making the same mistake (yes, yet to be confirmed it's a mistake), it's berserk you seem to feel so much contempt for the buyers and a kind of 'tricked 'em fair and square' stance with the (potential) scammer. 

You do remember that you started this thread asking for views on the site, you were given three very quick opinions - mine included - which amounted to "walk away, it's dodgy", then two hours later you'd bought a phone from them for £430!  That was you, wasn't it?

There's no contempt for you, but it's kind of hard to have much sympathy to be honest, given how you started the thread, but for the record, I still think it's dodgy. I don't expect everyone to get what they paid for in the timeframe promised and even if they do, what warranty or support they'll have in the event of any problems is anyone's guess.

Cloudbowski

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Cloudbowski said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Cloudbowski said:

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth said:

LipMarck said:

So, if you want your money back then talk with your bank. 3PP ain't gonna give it back.

Why should my bank refund you because suddenly you have buyers remorse? You bought cheap! Expect tac!

'why should the police arrest that assailant for punching you in the face, it was clear he was going to do it, why didn't you block the punch?' 
Maybe because they've been scammed and there's laws protecting consumers?
Also, stop bandying round 'buyers' remorse', this isn't that.

What are you on about, it literally is buyer's remorse.  It fits the definition perfectly: The sense of regret after having made a purchase.

To the best of my recollection (and forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not re-reading 15 pages of speculation to check), no one on here has evidently been scammed.  Yet.  Once the delivery dates have come and gone and if no product arrives then yes, it will look like a scam but so far everyone has got exactly what they ordered and knew they were ordering: the promise of a cheap gadget with an exceptionally long lead time.

Exposing a potentially criminal operation on a forum where people come for advice on such matters, is not buyers remorse, no one here has bought something expensive they don't need or spent too much on. They're worried they've been scammed, which is totally different to regretting a legitimate purchase. 
This thread has already stopped people making the same mistake (yes, yet to be confirmed it's a mistake), it's berserk you seem to feel so much contempt for the buyers and a kind of 'tricked 'em fair and square' stance with the (potential) scammer. 

You do remember that you started this thread asking for views on the site, you were given three very quick opinions - mine included - which amounted to "walk away, it's dodgy", then two hours later you'd bought a phone from them for £430!  That was you, wasn't it?

There's no contempt for you, but it's kind of hard to have much sympathy to be honest, given how you started the thread, but for the record, I still think it's dodgy. I don't expect everyone to get what they paid for in the timeframe promised and even if they do, what warranty or support they'll have in the event of any problems is anyone's guess.

"then two hours later you'd bought a phone from them for £430!  That was you, wasn't it?"
The title of the thread even includes the word 'fallen', my second comment states my purchase method, perhaps I should have been clearer that I'd already made the purchase. 

Aylesbury_Duck

Cloudbowski said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Cloudbowski said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Cloudbowski said:

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth said:

LipMarck said:

So, if you want your money back then talk with your bank. 3PP ain't gonna give it back.

Why should my bank refund you because suddenly you have buyers remorse? You bought cheap! Expect tac!

'why should the police arrest that assailant for punching you in the face, it was clear he was going to do it, why didn't you block the punch?' 
Maybe because they've been scammed and there's laws protecting consumers?
Also, stop bandying round 'buyers' remorse', this isn't that.

What are you on about, it literally is buyer's remorse.  It fits the definition perfectly: The sense of regret after having made a purchase.

To the best of my recollection (and forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not re-reading 15 pages of speculation to check), no one on here has evidently been scammed.  Yet.  Once the delivery dates have come and gone and if no product arrives then yes, it will look like a scam but so far everyone has got exactly what they ordered and knew they were ordering: the promise of a cheap gadget with an exceptionally long lead time.

Exposing a potentially criminal operation on a forum where people come for advice on such matters, is not buyers remorse, no one here has bought something expensive they don't need or spent too much on. They're worried they've been scammed, which is totally different to regretting a legitimate purchase. 
This thread has already stopped people making the same mistake (yes, yet to be confirmed it's a mistake), it's berserk you seem to feel so much contempt for the buyers and a kind of 'tricked 'em fair and square' stance with the (potential) scammer. 

You do remember that you started this thread asking for views on the site, you were given three very quick opinions - mine included - which amounted to "walk away, it's dodgy", then two hours later you'd bought a phone from them for £430!  That was you, wasn't it?

There's no contempt for you, but it's kind of hard to have much sympathy to be honest, given how you started the thread, but for the record, I still think it's dodgy. I don't expect everyone to get what they paid for in the timeframe promised and even if they do, what warranty or support they'll have in the event of any problems is anyone's guess.

"then two hours later you'd bought a phone from them for £430!  That was you, wasn't it?"
The title of the thread even includes the word 'fallen', my second comment states my purchase method, perhaps I should have been clearer that I'd already made the purchase. 

My mistake, it was the "potentially" that led me to believe you had yet to purchase. Semantics I know,  but had you said "Fallen for a potential iPhone scam?" I'd have inferred you'd already purchased.

LipMarck

Good news. Trustpilot has replied to my email and she said they're taking care of it, but can't disclose any details.



Now, if only someone could track down the exact location of 3PP and employees (I doubt it though), then they could be held accountable and reported to the police for scamming people.

Cloudbowski

born_again said:

Cloudbowski said:

Exposing a potentially criminal operation on a forum where people come for advice on such matters, is not buyers remorse, no one here has bought something expensive they don't need or spent too much on. They're worried they've been scammed, which is totally different to regretting a legitimate purchase. 
This thread has already stopped people making the same mistake (yes, yet to be confirmed it's a mistake), it's berserk you seem to feel so much contempt for the buyers and a kind of 'tricked 'em fair and square' stance with the (potential) scammer. 

Interesting to note that this thread is not exposing anything.
All the new posters joining in have already fallen for the "If it is too good to be true" Offer "It is"
Has anyone seen a post saying "Thanks you stopped me falling for this "To good to be true offer?"

Trouble is now all the useful advice is lost within the 15 page mire that this thread has become.

And for anyone thinking going to their bank and using "Buyers Remorse" it is not a valid reason for a refund via them either by Chargeback or S75.

"Interesting to note that this thread is not exposing anything"
Strange statement. It's exposing a potential threat / risk, even if we all receive our goods. How many people have seen this thread when googling the company and not gone through with the purchase, I've had DMs already. Very odd you don't see the worth in sharing. 

LipMarck

3PP's Trustpilot is full of fake reviews.

Here are two more examples:




The spelling is very much similar to two more recent reviews that have been deleted:





They give themselves three and four stars to balance it and make it look as though everything's working normally.

LipMarck

Two new genuine reviews have been posted and considering they'll probably be hidden soon enough as 3PP reports them "fraudulent," I've took screenshot of them as proof.

Review #1


Review #2



Edit: A new fake review has been posted an hour ago.