We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

4 year old PCN and a discrepancy?

1246710

Comments

  • Did you send them a SAR? 
    A SAR must contain all your data
    Including the original NtK
    Not in so many words ,I asked them for all documents pertaining to case. 
  • That is clearly a reminder
    It cannot be "the" Ntk. "the" NtK is the first PCN they send, via post, to the keeper. 
    Hi ,well I emailed them today and specifically asked for NTK and Notice of keeper liability is what they sent back. Thanks.
  • That is clearly a reminder
    It cannot be "the" Ntk. "the" NtK is the first PCN they send, via post, to the keeper. 
    In that case I have it yes.
    Maybe Im trying to pick holes in water here but on paperwork it list time of incident as 13:42 yet photos show it to be 13:40
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper
    That shows that there are issues with their timing
    Why did you send a SAR? The newbies thread instructs you to do so. 
    Ask them for the first notice they sent to the keeper. Ask them to confirm this is the first notice
    IF it references an earlier NtK, then clearly theyve ballsed up. 
  • That shows that there are issues with their timing
    Why did you send a SAR? The newbies thread instructs you to do so. 
    Ask them for the first notice they sent to the keeper. Ask them to confirm this is the first notice
    IF it references an earlier NtK, then clearly theyve ballsed up. 
    I assumed as it was 4 years since the incident that such a thing wasnt possible.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    That shows that there are issues with their timing
    Why did you send a SAR? The newbies thread instructs you to do so. 
    Ask them for the first notice they sent to the keeper. Ask them to confirm this is the first notice
    IF it references an earlier NtK, then clearly theyve ballsed up. 
    I assumed as it was 4 years since the incident that such a thing wasnt possible.

    What?

    Are you going to accept the Claimant's word that they sent you a Notice to Keeper but they can't show you that NtK? That's very silly.

    Several times since you started this thread you have been asked to show us the Defence that you filed - apparently sometime in 2018.

    I cannot understand how you expect to Defend yourself if you don't know what your Defence is. 
    For your own use you absolutely must know, or find out, exactly what you wrote in that Defence.
    Ask the hearing court to send you a copy of the Defence you have filed. Even if you don't show us, you will be severely handicapped defending your case with no recollection of the contents of your written Defence.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,632 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    You do realise you have to file and serve a witness statement and evidence a few weeks before your hearing?  (NO, NOT THE DEFENCE AGAIN).

    If you didn't know what happens when and how to do it right, you need to revisit the 2nd post of the NEWBIES thread and work on your WS & evidence now.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • KeithP said:
    That shows that there are issues with their timing
    Why did you send a SAR? The newbies thread instructs you to do so. 
    Ask them for the first notice they sent to the keeper. Ask them to confirm this is the first notice
    IF it references an earlier NtK, then clearly theyve ballsed up. 
    I assumed as it was 4 years since the incident that such a thing wasnt possible.

    What?

    Are you going to accept the Claimant's word that they sent you a Notice to Keeper but they can't show you that NtK? That's very silly.

    Several times since you started this thread you have been asked to show us the Defence that you filed - apparently sometime in 2018.

    I cannot understand how you expect to Defend yourself if you don't know what your Defence is. 
    For your own use you absolutely must know, or find out, exactly what you wrote in that Defence.
    Ask the hearing court to send you a copy of the Defence you have filed. Even if you don't show us, you will be severely handicapped defending your case with no recollection of the contents of your written Defence.
    Yes I have a copy of my defence.Thanks
  • I again asked for the NTK and they have replied with Notice of Keeper liabilty which has same issue date as the Parking Charge Notice,
  • Anoonymouse
    Anoonymouse Posts: 45 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 10 Posts
    edited 19 January 2021 at 5:11PM
    To add-as mentioned in my OP- this NTK which is acrtually a notification of keeper liability according to them,states "A notice to keeper was sent X/XX/2014" 2 years prior to incident. So they seem to be contradicting themselves with NTK and not even knowing what they are sending an when.
    Edit to add. The Keeper liabilty letetr doesnt offerf adisocunt fee has increased to £100.Even with my little knowledge I know you get 28 days at discounted rate.
    Opinions on that?
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.