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First Steps to Solvency

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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    If still looking a bit tight to have the CC paid off and the balloon saved up there is a a strategy to keep the payments down.

    if you think of them both as a single debt the trick is to have it at 0% 

    If you cashflow them both together on 0% with current funds how far past the RR balloon date do you go?
    (or how much short are you at balloon day)

    One strategy is to keep some 0% credit available and the cheapest is no fee BT or purchase cards
    (for shortish term needs the BT fees get relatively expensive)

    As the balloon approaches you load up a purchase card with NORMAL spends to free up the cashflow to cover the balloon.

    I suspect this would just be fall back plan as there are more savings coming(BMW & mortgage & ...), the business should be growing so may be able to help fill a gap.

    Another thought,  lets say you have £1kpm going towards these debts(CC+balloon) and at balloon time you are a few £k short can you pay yourself that few £k in advance then draw £1k less per month keeping your total for the year the same.

  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    LondonLiz said:
    @Alt80, what you described in your long post yesterday ( "I ‘knew’ my wife was going to leave me", I started to convince myself they’d be going down too with me and my business and all my fault wrecking peoples lives)  is called catastrophising in counseling speak.  This is going from a small incident or comment to a huge disaster in seconds in your head.  It's a normal reaction to react a bit badly to criticism (including our own inner critic) but for some people it spirals out of control.  You are getting much better at reflecting on previous behavior and thinking but ideally you will find ways to  nip that thinking in the bud before it starts, and not go through the whole painful cycle. Whether it's distraction techniques, mindfulness or coming on here for some advice early doors, whatever works for you to stop the negative thinking in its tracks.

    By the way I too think the Love Languages concept Working_Mum recommends is a good one.  We are all very different in how we express and interpret signs of love and caring.  For example it doesn't come naturally to me to tell people I love them and I tend to assume actions speak louder than words.  But some people need to hear it  - certainly my ex-OH was a 'words man' and my efforts were going unrecognised.   In your case you've equated gifts as a sign of love and the more expensive they are demonstrates the scale of your love.  For me and many others a small, personalised, thoughtful, often home made gift that really shows me the giver truly understands me, is far more valuable and I truly don't care how much it cost. 


    catastrophising.....

    There are probably better ways to put this and very much oversimplifying but that effect is compounded when in your head you know you are living on the edge.

    The reality is you are very successful just the success that was in your head was at a fantasy* level sustained through debt.

    I think you are past that now and the closer you get to the real you, living a real life, with the real people in your life the potential catastrophic melt down thoughts caused by even a small  financial hiccup become a distant past because you know can ride them out.

    You are pretty much there now, the gearing on the BTL is coming down, the main business is showing signs of being robust/sustainable/growing  even with a lot of uncertainty, the personal haemorrhaging of money has stopped, accrued debts are coming down, the financial future is planned on no new borrowing.


    That's a long way in a a few months, although the process started during lockdown 1, the real transformation is the last couple of months.

    There is still the struggle with some of the habitual/addictive behaviour but even those are getting managed remarkably well, you are a getting to grips with the triggers, clearly planning time so you don't have to many empty gaps to fill is very beneficial.

    It is easy to sit here and say don't feel regret, disappointed etc  its natural to reflect and these emotions are powerful.

    I am reminded of something a Hotel Director(large cruise ship in charge of 1000+ employees) said to me,
    Things go wrong, mistakes happen, what's important is how they get fixed,



    * There is probably a name for this effect where real life gets blurred by fictional stuff,  you see it a lot with the soaps/reality shows where some people start to believe it is real life and can't see the boundaries.

    Same can happen with your own thoughts and dreams you start to believe it is real and that can influence decision making processes in not so good ways.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    Thinking on the Xmas dinner, the in-laws offered to bring the food and you do boxing day, now you are going to cook.

    Anyway you can make this a joint effort share the load over the holiday period, it's a few days and I suspect there will be plenty(=too much) of food going round between you. 

    Maybe a MIL would get on board.

    It not a competition share. 
  • RelievedSheff
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    Thinking on the Xmas dinner, the in-laws offered to bring the food and you do boxing day, now you are going to cook.

    Anyway you can make this a joint effort share the load over the holiday period, it's a few days and I suspect there will be plenty(=too much) of food going round between you. 

    Maybe a MIL would get on board.

    It not a competition share. 
    I agree with this. Perhaps sharing the cooking between all of you will help ease tensions and create a happy family atmosphere for the festive period.
  • alt80
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    Not been spending on stupid stuff just more Christmas food etc few treats. Dropped in Lidl on Thursday for office milk and they'd got a £10 Porsche tractor revell model I bought for son as a stocking filler. Not going to feel guilty for spending £10 on my son. I have also got my wife some exercise dice, she can kill me with some surprise finisher lol. Still feel terrible about Christmas gifts tbh. 

    Yesterday fell to sleep watching tv about 9.30pm, wife told me to go to bed 10.30pm didn't wake up until 8am this morning. Think I needed it tbf. Been keeping busy with work. Unfortunately couldn't agree a deal on the project this time.

    Re Christmas dinner - tbh I said I'd do it to give me something to do. Not feeling great about seeing in-laws in person after them knowing about me using substances etc. They have been unbelievably supportive over the past few weeks but I'm dreading them coming here for the day. Feel like hiding away in the kitchen all day and eating my dinner at the kitchen table away from them haha too weird I know and not ok. They are doing Boxing Day food. Been struggling badly with appetite just not really bothered about eating / speaking to healthline most days. Yeah need to get a grip I know but I'm avoiding the triggers as much as possible. Dreading the weekend again but wife agreed to spend it together with son. Need to pull myself together when I'm not working.
  • RelievedSheff
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    Hope you have a lovely family weekend. 
  • warby68
    warby68 Posts: 3,143 Forumite
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    edited 12 December 2020 at 8:09AM
    Love the calm post about the user 'mate' - nope, you don't need him but strangely he finds you useful!! A lot of people like that. I think that kind of interaction would have triggered a huge rage a few weeks ago that somehow you'd failed. Now its more shrug and move on. He's a tool btw.
    Also love the Christmas gift for your wife - you've nailed that one.
    Hope you have a nice weeked - we're a long way behind here, only going for the tree tomorrow. Don't tell your wife!
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