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  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    RobHT said:
    With the kids is complicated, definetely it is.

    To reply from one of the points above, how a wife made the emoctional cool life with me if she drops? Does the result not count anymore? -What does that even mean?
    Come on guys, are you serious?
    Kids ok even with her (if I can't) and paid sufficiently by me, but she can ask the money to the new one, that's what I think, if marriage is not all about money, then who contributed more takes more, what the hell is wrong with the math in you guys :D . - Marriage doesnt work like that. You literally sign a contract to share all your assets. 
    And.... as you are saying she will receive money from both men... Fantastic life ah... Who knows why a man doesn't never get this luxury, and I'm talking also about no kids situation. - You're talking something! Most women, quality women, arent looking to be 'looked after' by you or anyone else

    In case of no kids, well, should I even explain the matter? - yes please. because if there are no kids, it's very unlikely you'd be paying any money ongoing
    Supposing the house was mine, and she contributed with the bills and food, basically all the rest 50/50, why the hell she should get the 50% of the house value? - it would depend on how long you were married. But without children it's unlikely she would get 50% In many cases, she has also the right to take over the house, so you are gonna rent elsewhere and continue to pay the mortgage, is this normal? Ah yeah it is for you guys :D- and what right is that? 

    If the marriage is about to remain together, when you split "BY YOUR CHOICE" you can't automatically get the 50% if you didn't contribute somewhere, can be an asset, even a debt, or whatever you wanna call it!

    rach_k said:
    Why do you have "concerns as a man"?  UK law doesn't seek to advantage women getting a divorce, it looks to ensure that if there is a lower earner, male or female, that they are treated fairly.  You're assuming that your wife wouldn't earn as much as you, but even if you went for a more traditional-style arrangement of little wifey staying at home to raise the kids and cook your dinner, she might one day have a great idea or a lucky lottery ticket.  If you'd supported her - financially and/or emotionally - for years, then she suddenly got rich and ran off with a nicer man, wouldn't you feel entitled to some of the money she earned during your marriage?  Support in a marriage, or any partnership, isn't just about money.  If you think it is or you don't value the non-monetary contributions, I'd suggest that marriage isn't for you!
    Talking about no kids situation, I believe you can only be a woman, there is no other explanation!
    What emoctional support if I take one hummer to my face? Omg...- Nice bloke... 

    She may take something from the house value only if she contributed to the mortgage, and that means that you as a man have been an idiot to let her to do that, so she has equity on the house for sure and right to sign if to rent or sell...
    You realise that if a woman owns a house and gets married, it's exactly the same right?
  • OP what exactly is it you want?? Just to moan about marriage law?? if you want to change the law perhaps approach your MP rather than troll here. 
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  • Slinky
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    Pity the wife, pity the kids who get stuck related to this one.
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  • AskAsk
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    elsien said:
    I predict that finding a woman to marry you is really not going to be an issue for you,  so no need to worry your pretty little head about it all. 
    lol.  to be fair mind, the OP may only be protecting his interests if the wife leaves him.  he may be a good husband while she is a good wife to him.  he is only talking about what happens if she was to leave him, like she has an affair and decide to leave him say.

    women end up with worst partners, those that beat them and does very little around the house.  forget about money split when they separate, they get the bad bit even when they are together.  and yet, women will find themselves getting involved with men like these. 

    the OP is also foreign, so his language may not be as etiquette as we are used to   :)
  • Comms69
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    AskAsk said:
    elsien said:
    I predict that finding a woman to marry you is really not going to be an issue for you,  so no need to worry your pretty little head about it all. 
    lol.  to be fair mind, the OP may only be protecting his interests if the wife leaves him.  he may be a good husband while she is a good wife to him.  he is only talking about what happens if she was to leave him, like she has an affair and decide to leave him say.

    women end up with worst partners, those that beat them and does very little around the house.  forget about money split when they separate, they get the bad bit even when they are together.  and yet, women will find themselves getting involved with men like these. 

    the OP is also foreign, so his language may not be as etiquette as we are used to   :)
    men make up about 1/3 victims of domestic abuse, just fyi :)
  • ah victim blaming and what aboutism, this is the thread that just keeps on giving. 
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  • RobHT
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    Comms69 said:
    RobHT said:
    With the kids is complicated, definetely it is.

    To reply from one of the points above, how a wife made the emoctional cool life with me if she drops? Does the result not count anymore? -What does that even mean?
    Come on guys, are you serious?
    Kids ok even with her (if I can't) and paid sufficiently by me, but she can ask the money to the new one, that's what I think, if marriage is not all about money, then who contributed more takes more, what the hell is wrong with the math in you guys :D . - Marriage doesnt work like that. You literally sign a contract to share all your assets. 
    And.... as you are saying she will receive money from both men... Fantastic life ah... Who knows why a man doesn't never get this luxury, and I'm talking also about no kids situation. - You're talking something! Most women, quality women, arent looking to be 'looked after' by you or anyone else

    In case of no kids, well, should I even explain the matter? - yes please. because if there are no kids, it's very unlikely you'd be paying any money ongoing
    Supposing the house was mine, and she contributed with the bills and food, basically all the rest 50/50, why the hell she should get the 50% of the house value? - it would depend on how long you were married. But without children it's unlikely she would get 50% In many cases, she has also the right to take over the house, so you are gonna rent elsewhere and continue to pay the mortgage, is this normal? Ah yeah it is for you guys :D- and what right is that? 

    If the marriage is about to remain together, when you split "BY YOUR CHOICE" you can't automatically get the 50% if you didn't contribute somewhere, can be an asset, even a debt, or whatever you wanna call it!

    rach_k said:
    Why do you have "concerns as a man"?  UK law doesn't seek to advantage women getting a divorce, it looks to ensure that if there is a lower earner, male or female, that they are treated fairly.  You're assuming that your wife wouldn't earn as much as you, but even if you went for a more traditional-style arrangement of little wifey staying at home to raise the kids and cook your dinner, she might one day have a great idea or a lucky lottery ticket.  If you'd supported her - financially and/or emotionally - for years, then she suddenly got rich and ran off with a nicer man, wouldn't you feel entitled to some of the money she earned during your marriage?  Support in a marriage, or any partnership, isn't just about money.  If you think it is or you don't value the non-monetary contributions, I'd suggest that marriage isn't for you!
    Talking about no kids situation, I believe you can only be a woman, there is no other explanation!
    What emoctional support if I take one hummer to my face? Omg...- Nice bloke... 

    She may take something from the house value only if she contributed to the mortgage, and that means that you as a man have been an idiot to let her to do that, so she has equity on the house for sure and right to sign if to rent or sell...
    You realise that if a woman owns a house and gets married, it's exactly the same right?
    I'm fine with it, I don't have any intent to steal anything!

    Well in the end you think as me, you didn't need even to reply point by point :D , anyway thanks.

    I got it now, no marriage, damnly simple :D 
  • RobHT
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    AskAsk said:
    elsien said:
    I predict that finding a woman to marry you is really not going to be an issue for you,  so no need to worry your pretty little head about it all. 
    lol.  to be fair mind, the OP may only be protecting his interests if the wife leaves him.  he may be a good husband while she is a good wife to him.  he is only talking about what happens if she was to leave him, like she has an affair and decide to leave him say.

    women end up with worst partners, those that beat them and does very little around the house.  forget about money split when they separate, they get the bad bit even when they are together.  and yet, women will find themselves getting involved with men like these. 

    the OP is also foreign, so his language may not be as etiquette as we are used to   :)
    Good boy, I was talking about to be a good husband obviously, and everyone gets his own things at the end of the fairy tale, but now I understand that this is the case of "no marriage", good stuff, story clarified.

    Women that choose bad husbands is an old story, it's not here the place to discuss that because I'm quite sure someone is gonna ban me, difficult to understand that matter.

    Then, I need to be honest, the tremendous amount of bad men here is incredible, I've seen the same in another country but the crime level was extremely low and people happy (yes, higher level of happiness than here), but guess what, women very powerful and indipendent with zero rights towards men, so actually they can take care of themeselves and this makes them proud as hell, here all to cry to the lawyer... Do you spot any weird thing here?
    But again, I don't care about it, I'm 100% sure do not do bad things, maximum she will leave me for some !!!!!!, as it happened in the past, yes, also for money, but that's normal right? :D  Since when they don't pretend money :D .

    Before someone also mentioned the quality women... Mate, in the London zone I can only see the quality !!!!!! at skyrocketing level :D , here only about money :) , and don't cry saying that is not true, I may understand up north like on the Scotland edge, maybe there is a bit different.

    I also still need to see the series of "men gold diggers", send me a message if you see any :D .
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  • 74jax
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    RobHT said:
    Comms69 said:
    RobHT said:
    With the kids is complicated, definetely it is.

    To reply from one of the points above, how a wife made the emoctional cool life with me if she drops? Does the result not count anymore? -What does that even mean?
    Come on guys, are you serious?
    Kids ok even with her (if I can't) and paid sufficiently by me, but she can ask the money to the new one, that's what I think, if marriage is not all about money, then who contributed more takes more, what the hell is wrong with the math in you guys :D . - Marriage doesnt work like that. You literally sign a contract to share all your assets. 
    And.... as you are saying she will receive money from both men... Fantastic life ah... Who knows why a man doesn't never get this luxury, and I'm talking also about no kids situation. - You're talking something! Most women, quality women, arent looking to be 'looked after' by you or anyone else

    In case of no kids, well, should I even explain the matter? - yes please. because if there are no kids, it's very unlikely you'd be paying any money ongoing
    Supposing the house was mine, and she contributed with the bills and food, basically all the rest 50/50, why the hell she should get the 50% of the house value? - it would depend on how long you were married. But without children it's unlikely she would get 50% In many cases, she has also the right to take over the house, so you are gonna rent elsewhere and continue to pay the mortgage, is this normal? Ah yeah it is for you guys :D- and what right is that? 

    If the marriage is about to remain together, when you split "BY YOUR CHOICE" you can't automatically get the 50% if you didn't contribute somewhere, can be an asset, even a debt, or whatever you wanna call it!

    rach_k said:
    Why do you have "concerns as a man"?  UK law doesn't seek to advantage women getting a divorce, it looks to ensure that if there is a lower earner, male or female, that they are treated fairly.  You're assuming that your wife wouldn't earn as much as you, but even if you went for a more traditional-style arrangement of little wifey staying at home to raise the kids and cook your dinner, she might one day have a great idea or a lucky lottery ticket.  If you'd supported her - financially and/or emotionally - for years, then she suddenly got rich and ran off with a nicer man, wouldn't you feel entitled to some of the money she earned during your marriage?  Support in a marriage, or any partnership, isn't just about money.  If you think it is or you don't value the non-monetary contributions, I'd suggest that marriage isn't for you!
    Talking about no kids situation, I believe you can only be a woman, there is no other explanation!
    What emoctional support if I take one hummer to my face? Omg...- Nice bloke... 

    She may take something from the house value only if she contributed to the mortgage, and that means that you as a man have been an idiot to let her to do that, so she has equity on the house for sure and right to sign if to rent or sell...
    You realise that if a woman owns a house and gets married, it's exactly the same right?
    I'm fine with it, I don't have any intent to steal anything!

    Well in the end you think as me, you didn't need even to reply point by point :D , anyway thanks.

    I got it now, no marriage, damnly simple :D 
    I'm not sure if you are aware marriage in England is a contract.

    It's not stealing, you have willingly signed a marriage contract. You don't have to sign the contract, which is probably best in your case.  I don't know how long you have been in England but contracts can happen for many reasons, building works, employment, marriage etc. Don't sign any you are not happy with. 
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