I got a parking ticket after parking infront of my garage....

NeilCr

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

Sorry

Can you clarify on what closed off from the road means?

Is it in a block? Standing alone but away from your house? 

I’m not sure how to describe it. I have uploaded a picture from the online images taken. It’s at the back of my house, but you have to turn in to from the main place of parking. All that is there are garages, you then exit on to a road within the estate, before exiting on to the main road. 

Sorry if that’s not clear. 

That's brilliant thank you!

Does the garage come with the property? Is it on your tenancy agreement/your landlord's lease?

Just wondering if it's a separate freeholder

And without being rude that's not a good look parked across two garages 

El0291

Coupon-mad said:

There's no appeal.  It's a scam from an ex-clamper.

You need to read other UKCPM threads (not other forums).

Thank you for your help and advice. I will check out other threads* 

El0291

NeilCr said:

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

Sorry

Can you clarify on what closed off from the road means?

Is it in a block? Standing alone but away from your house? 

I’m not sure how to describe it. I have uploaded a picture from the online images taken. It’s at the back of my house, but you have to turn in to from the main place of parking. All that is there are garages, you then exit on to a road within the estate, before exiting on to the main road. 

Sorry if that’s not clear. 

That's brilliant thank you!

Does the garage come with the property? Is it on your tenancy agreement/your landlord's lease?

Just wondering if it's a separate freeholder

And without being rude that's not a good look parked across two garages 

My garage — which is opposite — comes with the home and you can access it through the back garden. It has not been mentioned on the actual tenancy, but is connected to the house as previous owners built a door leading to the back garden. 

I know it doesn’t look good parked across two garages, but those two garages are not in use and it has never been an issue when me or my children’s father have parked there. My next door neighbour has also given permission for me to park in front of his garage, as I don’t have a permit and he doesn’t use the garage for vehicle access. 

All other garages can easily be accessed by those that use them. 

Coupon-mad

You will always get targetted by UKCPM and your lives will be a misery in trying to avoid them and having to complain about them and geting nowhere, and then having to fight court claims. 

So sad you moved there and (presumably) didn't notice that there was a scammer ex-clamper infesting the resindential parking area.  Sorry but I'd be making plans to give notice.  You can't live like this with UKCPM issuing fake £100 PCNs and suing you constantly.  

They lose in court but this is no way to live.

NeilCr

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

Sorry

Can you clarify on what closed off from the road means?

Is it in a block? Standing alone but away from your house? 

I’m not sure how to describe it. I have uploaded a picture from the online images taken. It’s at the back of my house, but you have to turn in to from the main place of parking. All that is there are garages, you then exit on to a road within the estate, before exiting on to the main road. 

Sorry if that’s not clear. 

That's brilliant thank you!

Does the garage come with the property? Is it on your tenancy agreement/your landlord's lease?

Just wondering if it's a separate freeholder

And without being rude that's not a good look parked across two garages 

My garage — which is opposite — comes with the home and you can access it through the back garden. It has not been mentioned on the actual tenancy, but is connected to the house as previous owners built a door leading to the back garden. 

I know it doesn’t look good parked across two garages, but those two garages are not in use and it has never been an issue when me or my children’s father have parked there. My next door neighbour has also given permission for me to park in front of his garage, as I don’t have a permit and he doesn’t use the garage for vehicle access. 

All other garages can easily be accessed by those that use them. 

Just to be clear. You are parked across two other garages and yours is opposite? That is slightly different to your original assertion that you were parked in front of your garage. And, I do mean that in the nicest possible way. Going forward it's best to be transparent as it doesn't help your case if you are caught out.

I think it's worth checking what the landlord's lease says. Sometimes garages come as separate to the purchase of the property

While I understand CM's point there are many other things to living in a property than the parking

My starting point would be a conversation with the landlord to get your head around exactly who owns what and what is in the paperwork and then go from there. Firing off at the MA/freeholder may well be the best strategy but I'd get my ducks in a row before heading down that path.

Coupon-mad

While I understand CM's point there are many other things to living in a property than the parking

If only that were true for the residents who are facing hundreds or thousands of pounds in court claims. 

That sort of threat to mental health and peace of mind chucks into oblivion everything else that might be good about a property.  Think how many poor people don't come to this forum and actually pay a scam parking firm for parking with agreement of other neighbours (as this person has) at their own home.  The word 'blight' doesn't even begin to cover it.

NeilCr

Coupon-mad said:

While I understand CM's point there are many other things to living in a property than the parking

If only that were true for the residents who are facing hundreds or thousands of pounds in court claims. 

That sort of threat to mental health and peace of mind chucks into oblivion everything else that might be good about a property.  Think how many poor people don't come to this forum and actually pay a scam parking firm for parking with agreement of other neighbours (as this person has) at their own home.  The word 'blight' doesn't even begin to cover it.

But it is true

There are many reasons for buying and living on an estate. Parking may - or may not - be one of those. Think of all the people who do not post here because they have no problems with parking - or the parking regime - on their estate. None of us know the numbers involved on either side. 

No-one, including me, is going to underestimate the issues caused by a PPC. Equally, I see a lot of scare stories on here about reduction in value for properties because of a PPC  being on site . As yet no-one has been able to produce  evidence of this. I'd genuinely be interested in a citation to support this view

El0291

NeilCr said:

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

Sorry

Can you clarify on what closed off from the road means?

Is it in a block? Standing alone but away from your house? 

I’m not sure how to describe it. I have uploaded a picture from the online images taken. It’s at the back of my house, but you have to turn in to from the main place of parking. All that is there are garages, you then exit on to a road within the estate, before exiting on to the main road. 

Sorry if that’s not clear. 

That's brilliant thank you!

Does the garage come with the property? Is it on your tenancy agreement/your landlord's lease?

Just wondering if it's a separate freeholder

And without being rude that's not a good look parked across two garages 

My garage — which is opposite — comes with the home and you can access it through the back garden. It has not been mentioned on the actual tenancy, but is connected to the house as previous owners built a door leading to the back garden. 

I know it doesn’t look good parked across two garages, but those two garages are not in use and it has never been an issue when me or my children’s father have parked there. My next door neighbour has also given permission for me to park in front of his garage, as I don’t have a permit and he doesn’t use the garage for vehicle access. 

All other garages can easily be accessed by those that use them. 

Just to be clear. You are parked across two other garages and yours is opposite? That is slightly different to your original assertion that you were parked in front of your garage. And, I do mean that in the nicest possible way. Going forward it's best to be transparent as it doesn't help your case if you are caught out.

I think it's worth checking what the landlord's lease says. Sometimes garages come as separate to the purchase of the property

While I understand CM's point there are many other things to living in a property than the parking

My starting point would be a conversation with the landlord to get your head around exactly who owns what and what is in the paperwork and then go from there. Firing off at the MA/freeholder may well be the best strategy but I'd get my ducks in a row before heading down that path.

Completely understand and I thank you for all of your advice. It is outside my garage, but directly outside two others that aren’t used. Basically if I was to reverse and budge over to the left slightly, my garage is there. The two garages I park outside of — one is dented and the locks are old and rusted padlocks. Definitely no owners to those garages. 

I just wondered whether it is legal to ticket me when parking in this situation. If so, I will just make the payment and possibly apply for visitors parking permit, if I can, for the time being.

If there is some form of ‘leg to stand on’ I won’t bother appealing it, as it’s far too much hassle for me right now. 

Once again, I appreciate all your help so far

NeilCr

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

Sorry

Can you clarify on what closed off from the road means?

Is it in a block? Standing alone but away from your house? 

I’m not sure how to describe it. I have uploaded a picture from the online images taken. It’s at the back of my house, but you have to turn in to from the main place of parking. All that is there are garages, you then exit on to a road within the estate, before exiting on to the main road. 

Sorry if that’s not clear. 

That's brilliant thank you!

Does the garage come with the property? Is it on your tenancy agreement/your landlord's lease?

Just wondering if it's a separate freeholder

And without being rude that's not a good look parked across two garages 

My garage — which is opposite — comes with the home and you can access it through the back garden. It has not been mentioned on the actual tenancy, but is connected to the house as previous owners built a door leading to the back garden. 

I know it doesn’t look good parked across two garages, but those two garages are not in use and it has never been an issue when me or my children’s father have parked there. My next door neighbour has also given permission for me to park in front of his garage, as I don’t have a permit and he doesn’t use the garage for vehicle access. 

All other garages can easily be accessed by those that use them. 

Just to be clear. You are parked across two other garages and yours is opposite? That is slightly different to your original assertion that you were parked in front of your garage. And, I do mean that in the nicest possible way. Going forward it's best to be transparent as it doesn't help your case if you are caught out.

I think it's worth checking what the landlord's lease says. Sometimes garages come as separate to the purchase of the property

While I understand CM's point there are many other things to living in a property than the parking

My starting point would be a conversation with the landlord to get your head around exactly who owns what and what is in the paperwork and then go from there. Firing off at the MA/freeholder may well be the best strategy but I'd get my ducks in a row before heading down that path.

Completely understand and I thank you for all of your advice. It is outside my garage, but directly outside two others that aren’t used. Basically if I was to reverse and budge over to the left slightly, my garage is there. The two garages I park outside of — one is dented and the locks are old and rusted padlocks. Definitely no owners to those garages. 

I just wondered whether it is legal to ticket me when parking in this situation. If so, I will just make the payment and possibly apply for visitors parking permit, if I can, for the time being.

If there is some form of ‘leg to stand on’ I won’t bother appealing it, as it’s far too much hassle for me right now. 

Once again, I appreciate all your help so far

No, no, no. Don't just pay it

But please find out the information asked for. At the moment it's not clear how exactly the garage fits in with your property legally. And who owns the land the garage is on.

Your landlord should know.

Coupon-mad

I just wondered whether it is legal to ticket me when parking in this situation. If so, I will just make the payment and possibly apply for visitors parking permit, if I can, for the time being.

No - you won't be paying this - it's not a real parking ticket.  There is no 'legal' or 'illegal' with ex-clampers.

Of course you don't pay UKCPM...have you read at last 20 UKCPM threads?