I got a parking ticket after parking infront of my garage....

El0291

NeilCr said:

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

El0291 said:

NeilCr said:

Sorry

Can you clarify on what closed off from the road means?

Is it in a block? Standing alone but away from your house? 

I’m not sure how to describe it. I have uploaded a picture from the online images taken. It’s at the back of my house, but you have to turn in to from the main place of parking. All that is there are garages, you then exit on to a road within the estate, before exiting on to the main road. 

Sorry if that’s not clear. 

That's brilliant thank you!

Does the garage come with the property? Is it on your tenancy agreement/your landlord's lease?

Just wondering if it's a separate freeholder

And without being rude that's not a good look parked across two garages 

My garage — which is opposite — comes with the home and you can access it through the back garden. It has not been mentioned on the actual tenancy, but is connected to the house as previous owners built a door leading to the back garden. 

I know it doesn’t look good parked across two garages, but those two garages are not in use and it has never been an issue when me or my children’s father have parked there. My next door neighbour has also given permission for me to park in front of his garage, as I don’t have a permit and he doesn’t use the garage for vehicle access. 

All other garages can easily be accessed by those that use them. 

Just to be clear. You are parked across two other garages and yours is opposite? That is slightly different to your original assertion that you were parked in front of your garage. And, I do mean that in the nicest possible way. Going forward it's best to be transparent as it doesn't help your case if you are caught out.

I think it's worth checking what the landlord's lease says. Sometimes garages come as separate to the purchase of the property

While I understand CM's point there are many other things to living in a property than the parking

My starting point would be a conversation with the landlord to get your head around exactly who owns what and what is in the paperwork and then go from there. Firing off at the MA/freeholder may well be the best strategy but I'd get my ducks in a row before heading down that path.

Completely understand and I thank you for all of your advice. It is outside my garage, but directly outside two others that aren’t used. Basically if I was to reverse and budge over to the left slightly, my garage is there. The two garages I park outside of — one is dented and the locks are old and rusted padlocks. Definitely no owners to those garages. 

I just wondered whether it is legal to ticket me when parking in this situation. If so, I will just make the payment and possibly apply for visitors parking permit, if I can, for the time being.

If there is some form of ‘leg to stand on’ I won’t bother appealing it, as it’s far too much hassle for me right now. 

Once again, I appreciate all your help so far

No, no, no. Don't just pay it

But please find out the information asked for. At the moment it's not clear how exactly the garage fits in with your property legally. And who owns the land the garage is on.

Your landlord should know.

Okay. I will hold off the payment for now.  I will find out who own the land the garage is on and I will update the thread once I know more.

El0291

Coupon-mad said:

I just wondered whether it is legal to ticket me when parking in this situation. If so, I will just make the payment and possibly apply for visitors parking permit, if I can, for the time being.

No - you won't be paying this - it's not a real parking ticket.  There is no 'legal' or 'illegal' with ex-clampers.

Of course you don't pay UKCPM...have you read at last 20 UKCPM threads?

Lol thank you, honestly. I haven’t got round to reading other threads; but I will before I go to bed. 

I may find the answering when I do read other threads, but do these people write to the legal owner of the vehicle? As the vehicle is my friends and I have made her aware of the ticket, but I don’t want her panicking if they write to her whilst I deal with the matter. 

1505grandad

OP posted earlier  -  " I haven’t owned a car for about two years now and am using my friends car whilst she recovers from surgery. "

So the correspondence is not in your name?

Edit  - just seen OP above.

Fruitcake

The vehicle owner is not involved in any of this. The only people involved are The Driver and The Keeper, who are two different people as far as the law is concerned. The Keeper has protections in law that the driver does not. If the vehicle is not registered to you but a NTD was left on the windscreen, then The Registered Keeper can expect to get a love letter from the scammers between 28 and 56 days afterwards, with the date of the alleged event being day zero.

The Driver should speak to The Keeper and warn them what is about to happen. It might be an idea for the Day to Day keeper to deal with this. The Day to Day keeper is the person who was looking after the vehicle at the time.

On another matter, are there any signs within the garage area? The photo of the car in front of the garages shows a sign outside the garage area, implying that it is for a different part of the site, not the place where the car was parked. I suggest you take photos showing the entrance to the garage area, and in and around the garage area.

El0291

Fruitcake said:

On another matter, are there any signs within the garage area? The photo of the car in front of the garages shows a sign outside the garage area, implying that it is for a different part of the site, not the place where the car was parked. I suggest you take photos showing the entrance to the garage area, and in and around the garage area.

From what I recall, there are no signs in the area I parked. I will check in the morning and also take pictures of the area I parked, so you all have a better understanding of the layout .etc.

Thank you. 

KeithP

If, as you say, there are no signs in the area where the driver parked, then take enough pictures to show that.

Note those words in bold. Stop using the word 'I'.

El0291

KeithP said:

If, as you say, there are no signs in the area where the driver parked, then take enough pictures to show that.

Note those words in bold. Stop using the word 'I'.

As I said, I will take pictures in the morning. & I am the person responsible for the ticket as I am using the car... have I missed something? 

Coupon-mad

No, but if you don't want a letter going to your friend you will now have to pointlessly appeal as driver.

El0291

Coupon-mad said:

No, but if you don't want a letter going to your friend you will now have to pointlessly appeal as driver.

My friend is aware of it, so I will let her know to look out for a letter also. I will contact my landlord and ask for them to help with the cancellation and I will also begin to write up an appeal. 

 I’m going to have a look at some threads now and read other peoples experiences. 

KeithP

El0291 said:

... have I missed something? 

Yes. It appears that you are yet to understand that the keeper has more protection in law than the driver does.