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  • Cus said:
    Anyone watching this GameStop battle? Very interesting
    Just waiting for the stampede for the exit. Going to be a fair number crushed in the process. 
    Ramping & microbubbles; never good. I was worried about contagion so sold my gfin this morning & it dropped 8% (my few grand didn't move the market🤭).
    Going to shift all seeing machines too, tech is making me nervous now. 
    Tesla p/e ratio closing in on 2000%. All seems nuts; hold on to your butts when the correction comes. 
    2nd time in a year I'm checking who sells most baked beans and shotgun shells...🤣
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  • adindas
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    edited 28 January 2021 at 1:01PM
    IrishSean said:
    Cus said:
    Anyone watching this GameStop battle? Very interesting
    Just waiting for the stampede for the exit. Going to be a fair number crushed in the process. 
    Tesla p/e ratio closing in on 2000%. All seems nuts; hold on to your butts when the correction comes. 
    2nd time in a year I'm checking who sells most baked beans and shotgun shells...🤣

    Well, you calculate P/E ratio for well-established mature companies, and you compare it with the benchmark. But you do not value growth companies using P/E ratio.

    Say a growth the company does not make profit at all  or even making a loss what will be the P/E ratio?

    P/E= Current market value per share​/EPS what will you get ?

    It does not make sense to calculate P/E for the company like this is it ??

    Google it, there are a lot resources about this from top Wall street Analysts, hedge funds.

    You will not see profits for many of Tech start-up companies (if any) until a few years to come. But you could always see whether they keep growing revenue year by year.They are not using the money to pay their excessive excecutive salary, pay dividends even they companies do not make profit, pay the debt instead of reinvesting.

    But your approach is sensible, spend sometimes to learn it until you have confidence and feel comfortable to invest in growth company like this. But you could see some attitudes here on MSE is that the people investing for growth for the companies which have not seen profits are idiots. If this were true than hedge fund managers who are investing for growths are idiots, though they keep beating the market significantly.

  • csgohan4
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    Cus said:
    Anyone watching this GameStop battle? Very interesting
    Just waiting for the stampede for the exit. Going to be a fair number crushed in the process. 
    feel sorry for those that bought on high, now suffering exceptional losses. Makes my IAG shares look like a holiday compared to gamestop
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  • Thrugelmir
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    adindas said:
    IrishSean said:
    Cus said:
    Anyone watching this GameStop battle? Very interesting
    Just waiting for the stampede for the exit. Going to be a fair number crushed in the process. 
    Tesla p/e ratio closing in on 2000%. All seems nuts; hold on to your butts when the correction comes. 
    2nd time in a year I'm checking who sells most baked beans and shotgun shells...🤣

    Well, you calculate P/E ratio for well-established mature companies, and you compare it with the benchmark. But you do not value growth companies using P/E ratio.


    Better measurement than a finger in the air.  Investors are totally disregarding the basic fundamentals at their own peril. Probably why there's so much betting rather investing activity currently.  History repeats itself. Always does eventually.  

  • adindas
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    edited 29 January 2021 at 10:35PM
    adindas said:
    IrishSean said:
    Cus said:
    Anyone watching this GameStop battle? Very interesting
    Just waiting for the stampede for the exit. Going to be a fair number crushed in the process. 
    Tesla p/e ratio closing in on 2000%. All seems nuts; hold on to your butts when the correction comes. 
    2nd time in a year I'm checking who sells most baked beans and shotgun shells...🤣

    Well, you calculate P/E ratio for well-established mature companies, and you compare it with the benchmark. But you do not value growth companies using P/E ratio.


    Better measurement than a finger in the air.  Investors are totally disregarding the basic fundamentals at their own peril. Probably why there's so much betting rather investing activity currently.  History repeats itself. Always does eventually.  

    Many of the best performing fund manager are also investing in growth companies which have not seen the profit, they have been doing that for many years. A few to name fund managers in Ark Invest, Blackrock.

    Do you know better than these people?

    There are a lot of better and well proven methods to value a growth companies, learn it.

  • csgohan4
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    edited 30 January 2021 at 6:29PM
    Seems the reddit crowd are potentially targeting CINE, after Moving from AMC,  hindsight regret selling my shares now, would be 60% up by now. 

    Be prepared for a flurry of trades on monday. 

    Wish they would move on IAG :)
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  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 30 January 2021 at 7:10PM
    adindas said:
    adindas said:
    IrishSean said:
    Cus said:
    Anyone watching this GameStop battle? Very interesting
    Just waiting for the stampede for the exit. Going to be a fair number crushed in the process. 
    Tesla p/e ratio closing in on 2000%. All seems nuts; hold on to your butts when the correction comes. 
    2nd time in a year I'm checking who sells most baked beans and shotgun shells...🤣

    Well, you calculate P/E ratio for well-established mature companies, and you compare it with the benchmark. But you do not value growth companies using P/E ratio.


    Better measurement than a finger in the air.  Investors are totally disregarding the basic fundamentals at their own peril. Probably why there's so much betting rather investing activity currently.  History repeats itself. Always does eventually.  

    Many of the best performing fund manager are also investing in growth companies which have not seen the profit, they have been doing that for many years. A few to name fund managers in Ark Invest, Blackrock.

    Do you know better than these people?

    There are a lot of better and well proven methods to value a growth companies, learn it.

    1988 and 1999 all over again. ...........
  • BrockStoker
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    edited 30 January 2021 at 8:52PM
    csgohan4 said:
    Seems the reddit crowd are potentially targeting CINE, after Moving from AMC,  hindsight regret selling my shares now, would be 60% up by now. 

    Be prepared for a flurry of trades on monday. 

    Wish they would move on IAG :)

    Yes, the movement does not seem to be slowing down. I decided to jump in on a stock that popped on Thurs (correction: It popped on Wed and I bought Thurs) while all hell was breaking loose. The stock (SRNE) popped due to good data (covid) and strong fundamentals, but at the same time it's a heavily shorted stock (around 29%), yet it's one of those stocks that are now "blacklisted" (you can only buy 1 share) by RH, which I think is very unfair.
    There is quite a bit of talk about it all on the YH message board:

    It seems that many RH users will simply move to other platforms over the weekend, so I don't think we've seen the last of this. Next week should be interesting!

  • adindas
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    edited 31 January 2021 at 11:56AM
    csgohan4 said:
    Seems the reddit crowd are potentially targeting CINE, after Moving from AMC,  hindsight regret selling my shares now, would be 60% up by now. 

    Be prepared for a flurry of trades on monday. 

    Wish they would move on IAG :)

    Here is the Stocks on the RH restricted trading list

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/29/stocks-on-the-robinhood-restricted-trading-list-like-amc-and-koss-are-surging.html

    I remember a few months a go there were many discussion about CINE World where some people here recommended to sell CINE immediately just because the price plunged due to more serious COVID Infection. But more importantly because CINE did not make profit during this COVID-19 pandemic.

    What did I say before about having an investment thesis ? Those who sold it regret it ???  Well we live and learn ...

  • adindas
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    edited 31 January 2021 at 12:00PM
    S&P 500 one week (Last week) performance Heatmap. So even you are holding one of the best companies in the worlds, index of best companies in the world you are still not immune to market volatility

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