90 seconds part two

ellaro9

Coupon-mad said:

So it can't be seen by a disabled person in a car when parking, then. 

And even if it could, the words I gave you earlier explain why it's illegal to try to cause disadvantage to a consumer by attempting to rely on a 'set in stone' contractual term that offers no discretionary adjustment and deprives them of their legal right and indisputable need (Blue Badge or not) to use the reasonable adjustment of a disabled bay.  And VCS knew this from the outset.  There is no excuse.

Well lets see if theyre stupid enough to pull the trigger and send me a claim, the counter claim will be submitted and an impartial judge can look at it. I think you hit the nail on the head when you suggested their income is down because of currents events and theyre scraping the barrel to generate income. They will certainly have a fight on if I get a claim form!

thingamaBob I think youre spot on

Fruitcake

I'm really enjoying the forensic analysis various posters have been doing to help the OP. 

I think the scammers would be stupid to take this further, but they are desperate to continue scamming for as long as they can get away with it.

Imagine the judge's reaction when the OP says, "I am disabled. I parked my car and went to read the entrance sign to see what I needed to do. Less than 90 seconds later I was given a PCN. I showed the scamtendant my disabled badge but he threatened me with court, and here we are."

If you approach the car park from the right, you cannot see the entrance sign until the last moment, if at all, after turning in. The dashcam footage shows the scamtendant's shadow was very long, meaning the OP would have been driving directly towards a low sun, making it difficult if not impossible to see any signs or poorly marked symbols on the ground. They reversed into the parking space but the sign behind the car could not be seen in the mirrors or rear dashcam. Since the OP was not aware of any other signs, they did the decent thing and went to read the entrance sign, but was penalised for doing so.

MistyZ

The landowner thing is doing my head in - must be worse still for you ellaro9!  I phoned that branch of Dominoes - fellow was nice enough but claimed that the car park wasn't owned by the same people as their premises.  Hmmm!  

Hopefully the contact details thingamaBob found will prove more fruitful.

Fruitcake

If it goes to court, at some point the OP should get sight of the alleged parking contract. It will be interesting to see whether this mentions the landowner or landholder or MA.

There should be room to attack this it even if it mentions the landowner as it's rare for a scammer to get the contract right. If it mentions landholder or MA and not the landowner, then that can be attacked assuming there is no contract with or flowing from the landowner.

ellaro9

thingamaBob said:

ellaro9 said:

ParkingMad I have already asked in a few shops but they are mainly staffed by student and they dont have a clue

For all enquiries relating to property, please contact us at:

property.enquiries@dominos.co.uk

getintouch@greggs.co.uk

Lidl - Central England

Property Contact: Jeremy Lee
jeremy.lee@lidl.co.uk

Ive just emailed all of those, already emailed Lidl but they denied its theirs and didnt reply when I asked about a managing agent.
As suspected, Nottingham Two are not replying anymore.

ellaro9

Fruitcake said:

Imagine the judge's reaction when the OP says, "I am disabled. I parked my car and went to read the entrance sign to see what I needed to do. Less than 90 seconds later I was given a PCN. I showed the scamtendant my disabled badge but he threatened me with court, and here we are."

Brightened up my day this did, was laughing out loud, thank you

ellaro9

Well after days of people ignoring me despite emailing them every day Greggs have now replied.
"Hi Ellaro9
We dont know who owns the land but you could try contacting FPH who manage the building which we occupy part of

Kind regards"

Have finally have aknowlegement from the council for my FOI request.

thingamaBob

ellaro9 said:

Well after days of people ignoring me despite emailing them every day Greggs have now replied.
"Hi Ellaro9
We dont know who owns the land but you could try contacting FPH who manage the building which we occupy part of

Kind regards"

Have finally have aknowlegement from the council for my FOI request.

Did Greggs give you contact details for this FPH? Was it FPH or FHP? FHP Poperty Services are a large property management company in the Midlands.

ParkingMad

Fisher Hargreaves Proctor Ltd.
www.fhp.co.uk

ellaro9

Jackpot!
It was Greggs who mentioned FHP so Its FHP Poperty Service, and they have now confirmed they manage it for their 'client'.
Ive just emailed FHP back telling them whats happened and asked them to call of their dogs, mentioned that I will sent them a witness summons if it goes to court so will see what they say.