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  • newbuilder
    newbuilder Posts: 263 Forumite
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    edited 30 January 2022 at 1:43PM
    QrizB said:
    Starfrog said:
    So does anyone know what price are Aoboet 2.4 batteries individually or as a pair for 4.8 ? As Saxon said above we are keen to progress to a purchase but its getting them and a price which seems elusive !
    I'm sure I've suggested this before somewhere but could you get together with a third person who already has a pair of Aoboet batteries, buy a pair of Pylontechs and do a swap?
    Not sure how this would work.

    Batteries are more expensive, ?warranties would be void? Not sure if someone would do a straight Pylon to Aoboet swap
    5KW solar, Lux 3.8KW inverter, Uhome 2400 LPF x 6, SOLIC 200 immerser diverter, Leaf 62Kwh, MG ZSev, Ohme home charger, Zappi v2.1,  Import: Octopus intelligent ; Export: Octopus Energy Export, 15KW biomass pellet boiler - Windhager., Home Assistant (newbie)
  • QrizB
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    QrizB said:
    Starfrog said:
    So does anyone know what price are Aoboet 2.4 batteries individually or as a pair for 4.8 ? As Saxon said above we are keen to progress to a purchase but its getting them and a price which seems elusive !
    I'm sure I've suggested this before somewhere but could you get together with a third person who already has a pair of Aoboet batteries, buy a pair of Pylontechs and do a swap?
    Not sure how this would work.

    Batteries are more expensive, ?warranties would be void? Not sure if someone would do a straight Pylon to Aoboet swap
    Ylou can buy Pylontechs for £780 each, a little more than half the price of a single Aoboet.
    Saxon and Starfrog find a third person with two nearly-new Aoboet. Saxon and Starfrog stump up £780 each, third person buys two Pylontech, gives one Aoboet each to Saxon and Starfrog.
    Or, Saxon/Starfrog buys three Pylontechs for £2340, sells one Aoboet to Starfrog/Saxon for £780 and sells the second on eBay for £780+ to some other poor soul with Aoboets.
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  • Starfrog
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    So my question would then be if I sell my existing 2 x2.4 ``(4.8 in total aoboet) and then purchase 9.6 pylon tech batteries can i simply add it to my lux inverter and all is good or do i need to mess about with settings and firmware updates etc. and then how much power does 9.6 of pylontech provide to my internal house need for consumption in a single hit such as my 8kW electric shower ? As i think the aoboet has higher output ? Excuse my stupidity on this but im really just learning.
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    12 x JASolar 455w Panels (5.46kWp south facing array) Enphase Microinverters IQ7+, Lux AC ESS 3.6kW, 5 x 2.4kwh = 12kWh Plyontech US2000C Battery storage, Lochinver far North, west coast of Scotland 
  • Starfrog
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    Maybe i buy 4 plyontech at £3128 and sell my Aoboet for 2400 and that way im saving money and the person getting the aoboet is saving money ?  

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    12 x JASolar 455w Panels (5.46kWp south facing array) Enphase Microinverters IQ7+, Lux AC ESS 3.6kW, 5 x 2.4kwh = 12kWh Plyontech US2000C Battery storage, Lochinver far North, west coast of Scotland 
  • QrizB
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    Starfrog said:
    ... do i need to mess about with settings and firmware updates etc. and then how much power does 9.6 of pylontech provide to my internal house need for consumption in a single hit such as my 8kW electric shower?
    Those are questions for the Lux-and-Pylontech-owning regulars, not me. Sorry.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
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  • newbuilder
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    edited 30 January 2022 at 2:50PM
    I believe in my hybrid you select the manufacturer of the battery on the control panel 

    also the limit on the KW outage is on the inverter as the storage in DC and the inverter needs to change it to AC
    5KW solar, Lux 3.8KW inverter, Uhome 2400 LPF x 6, SOLIC 200 immerser diverter, Leaf 62Kwh, MG ZSev, Ohme home charger, Zappi v2.1,  Import: Octopus intelligent ; Export: Octopus Energy Export, 15KW biomass pellet boiler - Windhager., Home Assistant (newbie)
  • EVandPV
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    edited 30 January 2022 at 2:56PM
    Starfrog said:
    So my question would then be if I sell my existing 2 x2.4 ``(4.8 in total aoboet) and then purchase 9.6 pylon tech batteries can i simply add it to my lux inverter and all is good or do i need to mess about with settings and firmware updates etc. and then how much power does 9.6 of pylontech provide to my internal house need for consumption in a single hit such as my 8kW electric shower ? As i think the aoboet has higher output ? Excuse my stupidity on this but im really just learning.
    You simply select Pylontech in the settings on the Lux lcd.
    9.6kwh Pylontechs will provide a max of 3.6kw from a single Lux ac controller.
    You would need 2 parallel Lux units for more power.
    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
  • Starfrog
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    EVandPV said:
    You simply select Pylontech in the settings on the Lux lcd.
    9.6kwh Pylontechs will provide a max of 3.6kw from a single Lux ac controller.
    You would need 2 parallel Lux units for more power.
    so my understanding is as follows. If I have power from my solar it clips at 3.5kw and that would be matched with the 3.6kw from battery so potentially anything that is under 7.1kw draw of power I would not use any grid power but over that I would need to draw grid for the difference.. Ive also though about getting another Lux inverter to obtain the clipped power from my array. I have 12 x 455 jasolar panels and 3 of them are on their own array and 9 on the other if I split off the 3 and add 3 new ones to the space (possibly 4) then I would have two arrays one of 9 and one of 6 giving me 9x455w = 4kw and 6x455w= 2.7kw which would give me a potential 3.6 + 2.7 from solar = 6.3kwh and if i add the capacity from the batteries that would be 3.6 so a total of up to 9.6kw to meet demand before having to add to grid (obviously thats on a nice sunny day!) or would it be more as i would have a new inverter so it would give me an additional 3.6 from the battery bank so 6.3 from solar and 7.2 from battery bank ? = 13.5kw supply without need from grid ? 

    this setup would be more efficient in my eyes as its maximising the limitations of the current setup and getting more power from the clipped current setup. as i intend to replace the electric shower with a purely hot water system (mixergy) it should prove much more beneficial 

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    12 x JASolar 455w Panels (5.46kWp south facing array) Enphase Microinverters IQ7+, Lux AC ESS 3.6kW, 5 x 2.4kwh = 12kWh Plyontech US2000C Battery storage, Lochinver far North, west coast of Scotland 
  • EVandPV
    EVandPV Posts: 2,112 Forumite
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    Starfrog said:
    EVandPV said:
    You simply select Pylontech in the settings on the Lux lcd.
    9.6kwh Pylontechs will provide a max of 3.6kw from a single Lux ac controller.
    You would need 2 parallel Lux units for more power.
    so my understanding is as follows. If I have power from my solar it clips at 3.5kw and that would be matched with the 3.6kw from battery so potentially anything that is under 7.1kw draw of power I would not use any grid power but over that I would need to draw grid for the difference.. 
    Yes, correct.
    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
  • ianatkin
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    EVandPV said:
    Starfrog said:
    EVandPV said:
    You simply select Pylontech in the settings on the Lux lcd.
    9.6kwh Pylontechs will provide a max of 3.6kw from a single Lux ac controller.
    You would need 2 parallel Lux units for more power.
    so my understanding is as follows. If I have power from my solar it clips at 3.5kw and that would be matched with the 3.6kw from battery so potentially anything that is under 7.1kw draw of power I would not use any grid power but over that I would need to draw grid for the difference.. 
    Yes, correct.
    Are you sure about that, I thought the total AC output of the inverter was 3.6kW, not 3.5kW from the PV and 3.6kW from the battery simultaneously?
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