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  • I've been trying to get my head around the comments about opening the new Market Harborough Fixed term RS (31.03.2026) in conjunction with already having the (30.11.2025) RS.

    I've just looked at the T&C's for the older one and noticed that there is a section about having two fixed term RS's ....



    and a similar section in the new RS T&C's .....


    My questions are ....

    1) Do you think that the new T&C's over-ride the old T&C's for the old RS?
    2) How will this affect the potential pay-in to both? If you've already funded the old one with £1000 by December 2024 and start funding in Jan 2025 with £240 in the new and £10 in the old? 

    Struggling to get my head around when (if at all) I'd fall foul of any of the above funding restrictions before one or the other RS matures? I assume that the interim interest payments (i.e. paid on 30.11.24 for the older RS and the equivalent for the new RS [31.03.2025?] don't count).

    I'd appreciate your thoughts especially if you feel I'm over thinking this!

  • PowerSavingMode
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    edited 22 December 2024 at 4:55PM
    masonic said:
    Nick_C said:
    schiff said:
    solartom said:
    For anyone with an Principality 2 Year Health Habit RS they added annual interest to my account  on its 1 year anniversary
    Can only be withdrawn by closing the account which most of us wouldn't wish to. So it's income of tax year 2025/26. 
    Surely the tax liability doesn't depend on whether it's something you wish to do or not but, wether you can access the funds......and you can access them in 24/25 tax year if you want to.
    If they have added the interest to your account then you have received it.  That money is in your name.  And presumably the interest is compounded so you are benefitting from it.  It will be part of this year's income.
    What matters is whether or not you can access it (including with a penalty). Since the account can be closed before the end of the term, the interest arises for tax when credited. Had the account not permitted early access or closure, then it would have arisen at maturity.
    Re: Principality 2 Year Health Habit RS — interest 

    Thank you for this. It clarifies things, to a degree, but isn't it simply a case where the interest arises for tax when withdrawn (for example, if I opted to close this account and gain access to said interest before the year end), rather than if it can in theory be withdrawn?
  • DJDools said:
    masonic said:
    Nick_C said:
    schiff said:
    solartom said:
    For anyone with an Principality 2 Year Health Habit RS they added annual interest to my account  on its 1 year anniversary
    Can only be withdrawn by closing the account which most of us wouldn't wish to. So it's income of tax year 2025/26. 
    Surely the tax liability doesn't depend on whether it's something you wish to do or not but, wether you can access the funds......and you can access them in 24/25 tax year if you want to.
    If they have added the interest to your account then you have received it.  That money is in your name.  And presumably the interest is compounded so you are benefitting from it.  It will be part of this year's income.
    What matters is whether or not you can access it (including with a penalty). Since the account can be closed before the end of the term, the interest arises for tax when credited. Had the account not permitted early access or closure, then it would have arisen at maturity.
    Re: Principality 2 Year Health Habit RS — interest 

    Thank you for this. It clarifies things, to a degree, but isn't it simply a case where the interest arises for tax when withdrawn (for example, if I opted to close this account and gain access to said interest before the year end), rather than if it can in theory be withdrawn?
    No sadly not, interest is counted in the tax year you can access it. 
  • chris_the_bee
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    edited 22 December 2024 at 5:16PM
    masonic said:
    Bobblehat said:
    1) Do you think that the new T&C's over-ride the old T&C's for the old RS?
    2) How will this affect the potential pay-in to both? If you've already funded the old one with £1000 by December 2024 and start funding in Jan 2025 with £240 in the new and £10 in the old? 
    Struggling to get my head around when (if at all) I'd fall foul of any of the above funding restrictions before one or the other RS matures? I assume that the interim interest payments (i.e. paid on 30.11.24 for the older RS and the equivalent for the new RS [31.03.2025?] don't count).
    My interpretation would be that you can distribute up to £3,750 between the two, but can only have a maximum of £3,600 in the first. The new terms would not override the maximum balance of the older account, but probably do signify a relaxation of the aggregate maximum balance.
    The restriction as written refers to money deposited by you, so interest above this limit should be ok.
    Market Harborough
    I think the £3750 limit across two accounts if you open the RS (31.03.2026) supersedes the £3000 stipulation for RS (30.11.2025)The new terms override the old as the new clearly state you can have £3750 across the two accounts.
  • masonic
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    masonic said:
    Bobblehat said:
    1) Do you think that the new T&C's over-ride the old T&C's for the old RS?
    2) How will this affect the potential pay-in to both? If you've already funded the old one with £1000 by December 2024 and start funding in Jan 2025 with £240 in the new and £10 in the old? 
    Struggling to get my head around when (if at all) I'd fall foul of any of the above funding restrictions before one or the other RS matures? I assume that the interim interest payments (i.e. paid on 30.11.24 for the older RS and the equivalent for the new RS [31.03.2025?] don't count).
    My interpretation would be that you can distribute up to £3,750 between the two, but can only have a maximum of £3,600 in the first. The new terms would not override the maximum balance of the older account, but probably do signify a relaxation of the aggregate maximum balance.
    The restriction as written refers to money deposited by you, so interest above this limit should be ok.
    Market Harborough
    I think the £3750 limit across two accounts if you open the RS (31.03.2026) supersedes the £3000 stipulation for RS (30.11.2025)The new terms override the old as the new clearly state you can have £3750 across the two accounts.
    That is correct, and that is why I said "The new terms would not override the maximum balance of the older account, but probably do signify a relaxation of the aggregate maximum balance". The new terms do not change how much you are allowed to pay into the older account.
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