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Double Dipping

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  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 25,219 Forumite
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    Post on the forum just like a normal post, if it is long you may have to split over two or more posts. 
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,592 Forumite
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    1. Yoy are making heavy weather of this, double dipping PCNs are among the easiest to defend as the scammer has to prove that OTBOP you are lying.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • nosferatu1001
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    Also, you will not submit "online". You will submit via email. 
  • savta
    savta Posts: 31 Forumite
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    Here is my Defence
    In the County Court ETC
    The defendant denies that the claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed , or not at all 
    It is unclear as to what legal basis the claim is brought ,whether by breach of contract , contractual liability or trespass. It is denied that the defendant or any other driver of the vehicle entered into any contractual agreement 
    whether express, implied or by conduct .
          It is denied that the claimants signage is capable of creating a legally binding contract . There is absolutely no signage at all at the entrance and it is inadequate throughout
         C.E.L. has repeatedly refused to furnish any information on the Landowner ,(which I have since easily obtained through the 
    Land Registry ) thereby denying me the opportunity to request that cancelation be considered.It was refused on the basis of Data Protection which in view of the facts is clearly untrue .We needed know the actual creditor who is making the demand and in what capacity .No copy of any contract was produced .
         In addition , the main concern is that the driver was penalised for Double Dipping .The ANPR evidence is being suppressed or there are faulty cameras .This absolves us from any responsibility to create cause of action against us
        Please note that the maximum sum which may be recovered by virtue of POFA is disclosed in paragraph 8(2)C or maybe 9(2)D 
    Although we dispute the whole basis of the Parking Charge of great concern is that it is disproportionate and punitive level
    It is beyond credibility for any PPC not to be aware of  this and no legal firm can be allowed to profess ignorance 
    In addition to the original PCN penalty for which liability is denied ,the claimants in this case have inflated the value of the claim
    by adding purported additional costs which the defendant submits have not occurred .
    Costs the have bee claimed......£60......then £100...£140.....£170.....£182 .....£195......now including court fee and legal reps. cost ....£290
    This is an alarming abuse of process which should come with some sanction , other than striking the additional amount from the claim 
    I request that the claim is struck out entirely in response to an attempt to claim exhorbitant charges .
    I declare that I believe all facts to be true
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    P.S I have included a copy of the written decision of the Skipton Court 











  • savta
    savta Posts: 31 Forumite
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    This has to go tomorrow !
    Thank you 
  • Coupon-mad
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    And append the 6 page approved judgment from Southampton, as well as the 2020 Skipton Order.

    Don't call the Claimant CEL (they are 'the Claimant') and replace 'I'' and ''me'' with 'the Defendant':
    C.E.L. has repeatedly refused to furnish any information on the Landowner ,(which I have since easily obtained through the Land Registry ) thereby denying me the opportunity

    This means NOTHING to a Judge this is our forum slang phrase!

    Double Dipping .

    Also slang (not suitable for language in a formal defence) is any abbreviation, like:

    legal rep


    Your defence doesn't look anything like the ones I wrote recently, and doesn't actually say you don't think they have landowner authority (it only mentions complaining to the landowner) and there's nothing about the CRA 2015 or the 3 Beavis case quotes - but you can cover that briefly as long as you append and refer to the Skipton Judgment and Southampton 6 page Approved Judgment, too.

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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    savta said:
    This has to go tomorrow !

    No it doesn't.

    On 15th February I told you...
    ...you have until 4pm on Tuesday 3rd March 2020 to file your Defence.


  • savta
    savta Posts: 31 Forumite
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    Which is the best quote for Beavis ?
    What is CRA 2015?
    Where can I find the Southhampton information
  • savta
    savta Posts: 31 Forumite
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    Sorry Keith P
    This is sending me doolally
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    edited 26 February 2020 at 5:43PM
    I just posted a new thread all about defence. 
    Please read that and use the suggested template (no link)! 
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