Help with County court claim

leighross

Coupon-mad said:

Great - breathing space!

Can you show us the WS you filed & served please (minus your ID)?

I will try and find and update tomorrow 

KeithP

leighross said:

Coupon-mad said:

Great - breathing space!

Can you show us the WS you filed & served please (minus your ID)?

I will try and find and update tomorrow 

Crikey!!
Surely you have that at your fingertips.
You will be referring to it throughout the hearing.

Coupon-mad

Seconded.

The WS and evidence (from both sides, yours and theirs) is what you need to have with you at this hearing!

Plus some notes of what you want to draw to the Judge's attention from either your WS and exhibits, or theirs if you can pick holes in it.

leighross

The lady judge awarded in BWLegals favour. 
I hadn't produced a WS (witness statement) 
I did produce a defence (which I thought that was my ws)
But the judge never had their WS either 
Their representative have one which the judge and I was handed as it had to be photocopied. 
But it's done and dusted now.
Thanks for all your help

Coupon-mad

leighross said:

The lady judge awarded in BWLegals favour. 
I hadn't produced a WS (witness statement) 
I did produce a defence (which I thought that was my ws)
But the judge never had their WS either 
Their representative have one which the judge and I was handed as it had to be photocopied. 
But it's done and dusted now.
Thanks for all your help

BW Legal weren't involved in the hearing though.  They just filed the claim for the client.

The Claimant was a parking firm and the rep who attended wasn't from BW Legal.  Just a hired gun.

I am so sorry you lost but this was almost inevitable by going far off piste from our clear advice.

The NEWBIES thread almost shouts that 'DEFENCE IS NOT YOUR ONLY JOB!'  and walks all newbies through what happens when and what to put in your vital WS bundle.

A further clue was the hearing letter telling you your deadline to send your WS and evidence, and the extra clue was when the parking firm's WS bundle arrived - a massive hint that you'd missed a step because they don't get to send a bundle when a Defendant doesn't.

Oh well, you live and learn.  Not a 'forum loss' that we count, because our advice wasn't followed, but we are very sad for you, nonetheless.

Surely (I hope) you managed to convince her not to allow the false added +£70 DRA fee and knew how to argue that?

KeithP

On 24 September 2021 at 8:38AM @Le_Kirk asked...

Le_Kirk said:

Did the order tell you by when you must submit your witness statement and evidence?  Writing that is a good way to refresh your memory.

You didn't answer.

On 18 October 2021 at 1:18PM @Coupon-mad asked...

Coupon-mad said:

The 30 pages sounds like their WS and evidence.  Done yours yet?  We did ask you to check the Orders for the deadine

You didn't answer.

Six months later, on 13 April at 12:24PM @Le_Kirk again asked...

Le_Kirk said:

Have you previously submitted your witness statement and evidence? 

That same day @Coupon-mad repeated her question...

Coupon-mad said:

I do hope you filed and served your WS and evidence? It worries me that you didn't reply to my question about that over 6 months ago.
I am not asking about your defence.  Did you file and serve a WS and evidence, as the Notice of Allocation required you to do xx days before the hearing?

You then seemed to be about to create a Witness Statement and gather evidence.

But...
Then yesterday, another seven months later, you tell us about your hearing... the next day.

It really isn't possible to help some people.
Sorry you lost, but...

leighross

Tbf it was and is jargon. I have no idea. Many "newbies" using all the jargon and terms which I don't understand. Plus pages and pages of jargon which I still don't understand is very difficult.
She did in fact add the £70 fee and was quite happy to add that.
Who ever filed a ws for them (BWLegals) it never got to the judge. How can I follow "advice" I don't understand
So yeah like I said previously thank you for your help I appreciate it. 
But it's not "straight" forward 

leighross

But...
Then yesterday, another seven months later, you tell us about your hearing... the next day.

It really isn't possible to help some people.
Sorry you lost, but...

To answer this section as there is quite alot in your advice. I didn't know about it being today until 2 days ago. And that was because the court it was being held at emailed me asking if it's still going ahead.

It kept getting moved (literally from court to court)
And the date kept moving.
I'm not in control of that. 
Plus I done this thread for some help. And updated so other people can see it too. And if they need help they are more than welcome can message me. 
I'm by far no lawyer wow I didn't even go to uni. I have no experience in this field. I did ask so many times different questions just to try and understand but clearly not my area

star1800

leighross said:

Tbf it was and is jargon. I have no idea. Many "newbies" using all the jargon and terms which I don't understand. Plus pages and pages of jargon which I still don't understand is very difficult.
She did in fact add the £70 fee and was quite happy to add that.
Who ever filed a ws for them (BWLegals) it never got to the judge. How can I follow "advice" I don't understand
So yeah like I said previously thank you for your help I appreciate it. 
But it's not "straight" forward 

I understand what your saying and even tho I tried and spent hours to gather all the info but I still didnt understand it and struggled to argue my point across as it was my first time and taken back by the judges harsh approach. Im not sure if its worth going through all the stress and spending hours when at end of day its a lottery depending on the judge. 

leighross

star1800 said:

I understand what your saying and even tho I tried and spent hours to gather all the info but I still didnt understand it and struggled to argue my point across as it was my first time and taken back by the judges harsh approach. Im not sure if its worth going through all the stress and spending hours when at end of day its a lottery depending on the judge. 

Yes alot of stress and the judge did point out that sometimes the £70 has came off and there is another case where this fee is added on. 
My judge added mine on 🙄