New "Have a Look at This" thread

Patr100

Got me wondering, why do people go through the process for  planning permission for something (with the obvious costs and time etc) then still sell?
Is it a marketing ploy or do they realise they suddenly can't spend any more on the place/lose their job and want to downsize?

goldfinches

Around the village where I grew up the routine was to buy a run down place, spruce it up and get planning permission for an extension and a swimming pool and then sell for more than the place without the permission would get as it was relatively hard to get planning permission but once achieved you could vary it quite easily. I don't know if that's still the case there but the same sort of thing might well apply elsewhere.

RHemmings

Patr100 said:

Got me wondering, why do people go through the process for  planning permission for something (with the obvious costs and time etc) then still sell?
Is it a marketing ploy or do they realise they suddenly can't spend any more on the place/lose their job and want to downsize?

I wondered this. If it were just a matter of paying for the application fees, then it might be worth a punt before selling in case a small outlay could make a property more valuable. But, for anything serious preparation for the planning application would cost a fair amount. Architect's drawings etc. 

Silvertabby

FreeBear said:

joho said:

Spot the cat:

Jameson Road, Clacton-On-Sea CO15, 3 bed semi-detached house for sale - 70633770 | PrimeLocation

You get four chances

Looks like the cat is showing the house !

FreeBear

Patr100 said:

Ok, a presentable 4 bedroom house but for £3.4m I'd expect the deer and the church to be included in the sale.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/163239074

And I would have expected a decent covered store for the logs...

poseidon1

Patr100 said:

Ok, a presentable 4 bedroom house but for £3.4m I'd expect the deer and the church to be included in the sale.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/163239074

If I had that kind of money to splurge on a home, would be heading across to Kingston 5 miles away and look for something with far more internal character and street presence than the rather 'Plain Jane' Sheen property - see example below -

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/162983570#/?channel=RES_BUY

Sadly, the property comes with full planning permission to be knocked down and replace with 2 detached executive homes. Unfortunately, many of area's detached homes with land have fallen victim to the bulldozer and replaced by 2,3 or even 4 new homes.

joho

Spot the 'orse:

Tehidy, Camborne, Cornwall TR14, 5 bed equestrian for sale - 67274269 | PrimeLocation

Dandie89

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/164074766  What a life. Pick up a glass of something in the hallway to carry through to the kitchen concert.

horsewithnoname

Dandie89 said:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/164074766  What a life. Pick up a glass of something in the hallway to carry through to the kitchen concert.

There’s some proper groovy decor happening there. Brilliant!

RHemmings

Here's another property which might amuse me but no-one else. It's a piece of land in Leicester. Initially it looks reasonably promising that it might be possible to build as it's among other houses and is about the right size and shape. 

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/164072843#/?channel=COM_BUY



Here it is on Google Maps 



So, off to the planning portal for Leicester I go, to see what the history is. More interesting than normal. It seems that one person, Owner A, owned it from at least 2007 until at least 2011. In 2007 they made one planning application for a three story building with flats. This was initially refused, for the reason that it would reduce the privacy of surrounding buildsing. In 2008, the same person made another application for a different building, and it was approved. There were minor conditions such as providing a gate and a place to store bicycles. In 2011, the same person applied for extra time to build the building. This was approved, with some caveats as to the position of local sewers and that no building should be within 25m of those. Etc.

In 2015, someone different owned the property. Or at least was the applicant. They made an application for a building of four flats, which was refused. The reason for refusal is that the property is within flood zone 3b. With a risk of flooding of greater than 1 in 20 per year. I checked on the flood risk map, and there it is. 



I presume that something changed in between the two planning approvals and the refusal. Either the flood zone changed, or the planning policy concerning properties in flood zones changed. There was another planning application in 2019 with the same applicant, but that too was refused for the same reason. There have been no applications since then.

Confusingly, as far as I can see, the land last sold for £66,000 in 2018. Between the two planning applications with the same applies. 

The person who made the most recent applications is still an active director of a local firm of solicitors, at an advanced age. 

It's up for auction now, with a guide price of £35,000. However, with the planning refusals, that now seems quite expensive to me. I can see how someone might have thought that given the earlier approvals, if it was bought in say 2013 or thereabouts, that someone might have thought there was a good chance of getting planning permission. But, then whatever happened with the flood zone happened, and now no dice. 

If it was still possible to get a copy of the title register for £3, then I would do so. At £7, I'm less keen. Curious though; I may succumb.  

It seems to be that the moral might be: if you get planning permission, actually build something. Or sell it to someone that will. Because that ability to get planning permission might disappear.