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  • beamerguy said:
    4 x £140 and 1 £165
    So is it 5 tickets that are £100 each ?  Is their any explanation for the £140 or £165
    no explanation of the additional increase whatsoever
    so i think (and the SAR from Apcoa should prove this) is CT Law have added their £75 per PCN but not been clear on this in the LBC correspondence
    thanks
    INeedAUsername


  • KeithP
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    No, not £75 per PCN.

    4 x £140 plus £165 = £725

    adding just the one £75 brings the total to £800.
  • KeithP said:
    No, not £75 per PCN.

    4 x £140 plus £165 = £725

    adding just the one £75 brings the total to £800.
    thanks KeithP
    i took it that the money they were chasing a few months ago was around £500 for the same PCN's
    now the number is £800 and can only assume they (CT Law) have added the additional charges on as the initial cost (making it £140 and £165) and then actually noted one charge? just thinking out loud here
    Thanks
    INeedAUsername

  • KeithP said:
    But if the 'face value' of each PCN was £100, that totals £500.

    So there are additional charges here of £300 - that averages out to £60 per ticket.
    yep i would agree on that
    thanks
    INeedAUsername
  • KeithP
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    Yes, that's the way to look at it.

    If the 'face value' of each PCN was £100, that totals £500.

    So there are additional charges here of £300 - that averages out to £60 per ticket.
  • KeithP said:
    Yes, that's the way to look at it.

    If the 'face value' of each PCN was £100, that totals £500.

    So there are additional charges here of £300 - that averages out to £60 per ticket.
    thank you
    appreciate your time on helping me with this
    thankyou
    INeedAUsername
  • beamerguy
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    So we can now tell you, that you are being scammed by CSE

    Because it is a Letter before claim, you must reply.

    You do so by firstly denying any debt.

    You ask them to provide a copy of a contract between yourself and DRP (THERE IS NONE)

    You ask them for their legal authority to add amounts on top of the parking ticket

    You ask them, what is their legal authority to add £75 as debt collector costs

    These are questions they cannot answer, they can try with fabrications or they can tell further lies.

    Whether they reply or not, it does not matter, you will show the letter to the judge and CST will get one hell of a spanking for GROSS ABUSE OF PROCESS.  Just as their oppo legals in this industry are getting

    ABUSE OF PROCESS
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6103933/abuse-of-process-thread-part-2/p1?new=1


  • beamerguy said:
    So we can now tell you, that you are being scammed by CSE

    Because it is a Letter before claim, you must reply.

    You do so by firstly denying any debt.

    You ask them to provide a copy of a contract between yourself and DRP (THERE IS NONE)

    You ask them for their legal authority to add amounts on top of the parking ticket

    You ask them, what is their legal authority to add £75 as debt collector costs

    These are questions they cannot answer, they can try with fabrications or they can tell further lies.

    Whether they reply or not, it does not matter, you will show the letter to the judge and CST will get one hell of a spanking for GROSS ABUSE OF PROCESS.  Just as their oppo legals in this industry are getting

    ABUSE OF PROCESS
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6103933/abuse-of-process-thread-part-2/p1?new=1


    thank you
    would this email to them be suffice? i copied this and added some points
    grateful for the feedback
    Thanks
    INeedAUsername

    Dear Sir or Madam

    I refer to the letter received on Friday 7th August 2020 

    I will begin by stating that I deny any debt you are pursuing.

    I am unsure that your claim is legitimate. I require that you advise me as to what legal authority you have to add an amount of £300 to your claim?

    You clearly already know that this is Abuse of Process and in a recent claim made by BWLegal in Luton County Court, claim number F0DP77KP, the judge gave his reason for striking out the claim is as follows:-

    The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the Parking charge which it is alleged that the Defendant contracted to pay.

    This additional charge is not recoverable under the Protection of Freedom Act 2012 schedule 4, nor with reference to the judgement in Parking Eye v Beavis, which expressly approved because it included costs of administration.

    Additionally, S71(2) of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 requires the court to consider the fairness of a contract term and the provision of additional charges falls into example 6, 10 and 14 of the indicative list of unfair terms in schedule 2 of the act.

    It is an Abuse of Process for the claimant to issue a knowingly inflated sum which they are not entitled to recover

    As I will reference this judgment (and many others where claims have been struck out), in any claim you make together with a copy of this letter, I ask you again on what LEGAL AUTHORITY do you have to add £300 to your claim?  Any reply from you will be shown in court and if your reply states "without prejudice", I reserve the right to advise the court that you have replied not wanting the court to read it.

    I wish to further clarify what is your legal authority to add £75 as debt collector costs?

    I also request you provide me with a copy of a contract between yourself and DRP.

    This is now a very serious situation for you and I now give you the option to immediately discontinue all of your claim and you and your client bears their own costs.  In turn, I will not claim costs against your client.

    Please reply within 7 days from the date of this email with your intentions
  • beamerguy
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    I see you have used one of my letters which is fine and makes them aware

    you say ... I also request you provide me with a copy of a contract between yourself and DRP.

    It's MYSELF ...... They claim DRP instructed them so you want a contract between DRP and you
  • beamerguy said:
    I see you have used one of my letters which is fine and makes them aware

    you say ... I also request you provide me with a copy of a contract between yourself and DRP.

    It's MYSELF ...... They claim DRP instructed them so you want a contract between DRP and you
    Yes. Makes sense 
    thank you

    Ineedausername
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