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Tenant raised issues with property

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  • System
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    steampowered, I’ve seen it. I watched the roofer meticulously carry out the work.
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  • I repeat, please?
    Are you owner, landlord (not always the same person), agent, what please?
  • Cakeguts
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    Just sell the house with the sitting tenant. You have got a house that is not suitable for letting because it needs more money spent on it than you can get from letting it. Sell it and leave the problem for someone else who isn't trying to let it to fix once the tenants have moved out. If you can't sell it on the open market put it into an auction.


    You have just demonstrated why it is not always a good idea to buy cheap property to let. The rents don't always cover the amount of work needing doing to them. Work costs the same in the same area so a £200k house needing the same amount of work would have a higher rent to help pay for it.



    Most of our houses let for a lot more than £410k and not in the South East. I have been a landlord for 29 years.
  • GDB2222
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    G_M wrote: »
    You can serve a S21 now and provided the council don't issue an improvement notice after their visit, it will be valid. If they do issue one, the S21 will fail.


    Retaliatory or revenge eviction is when a landlord tries to evict a tenant after they ask for repairs or complain about conditions in the property.

    The
    Deregulation Act 2015 (S33) protects AST tenants if their tenancy either started, or was renewed, after 1/10/15. Any S21 Notice (the 1st step in eviction) is invalid if

    i) the tenant has reported an issue to the LL and
    ii) the tenant has complained to the council and
    iii) the council has inspected and
    iv) the council has issued an improvement notice to the LL

    If all the above steps have taken place, the LL cannot serve a valid S21 Notice, and any already served S21 becomes invalid.

    If the landlord serves a (valid) S21 Notice following the original complaint from the tenant (step i above), and then steps ii) to iv) take place, the S21 Notice cannot be enforced even though it may have been valid when it was served.

    For more, see Shelter here.


    My advice if possible would be to be present when they inspect so you can explain about the roof work already done and point out the impossibility of knowing it was inadequate unless/until it rains and there are further leakes. Otherwise the tenants will give their side "Look there's the damp that's proof the roof leaks" and you'll get an improvement notice.


    If you ignore an IN, the council can get the work done and bill you....


    Sell? Yes, if you can find a buyer willing to take on a property wih a tenancy in place, and with an outstanding IN..........


    None of the above applies to a S13 notice to increase the rent, and it may have the same effect in practice.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • AdrianC
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    I'm starting to smell the school holidays a bit early.
  • AdrianC
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    Most of our houses let for a lot more than £410k
    Per week? Per month? Per year?
    and not in the South East. I have been a landlord for 29 years.
    Scottish grouse moors? Caribbean islands?

    (Can I play the "internet influencer" card and have a free stay in return for coverage? <bats eyelashes>)
  • pinkshoes
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    If you have fixed the roof and it is fine, then wait and see what the council report says.

    Have you sent a copy of the invoice for the work done to the council?
    Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
    Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')

    No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)
  • Gycraig
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    so YOU buy a house at a price YOU chose and then YOU rented it out at a price YOU chose, yet you aren't willing to do the maintenance because the yield isn't high enough.
    What about when the boiler breaks ? do they not have heating or hot water as it isn't cost effective to get them a boiler ?.
    You get years and years of profit out of by to let there will be some years you don't make a profit on a particular property, that's the life you have chosen though. I often wonder where the negative sentiment towards landlords come from then I read these types of posts.
    You call them troublesome tenants because they want a habitable property ?
  • G_M
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    edited 7 December 2019 at 3:34PM
    ritfor wrote: »
    ....
    I will hear on Monday what the result is. If an IN is not issued, can I then issue S21 and expect to get it through?
    See post 7 above and read the link within it for the leglislation.
    As for whether you'd 'get it through', answer the 88 qustions here:
    S21 checklist (Is a S21 valid?)


    When is S21 abolished?
    Depends who wins the election on 12th Dec, plu whether and how soon the relevant manifesto is honoured.

    And if I’m forced to get the work done, can I issue a S21 after, before the next repair request comes in?
    Yes.
    None of the above (post 7) applies to a S13 notice to increase the rent, and it may have the same effect in practice.
    As GBD2222 says, depending if the tenancy is in a fixed term or periodic, and if periodic whether it is statutory or contractual, and if contractual whether the contract has terms relating to rent increases, you may be able to serve a S13 Notice.
  • System
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    G_M, thanks for your knowledgeable input. I appreciate your factual advice and clear guidance as ever, and that of some others who have post.

    Many others though, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!!! You would choose to NOT cut your losses and move on, but to throw money down the drain. INSANITY.....unless you’re a charity.

    I run a business at a profit. When an investments doesn’t work, I cash it in.....don’t you....MADNESS to chuck more and more money at it you’ll never see again.
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