New neighbours don't get the etiquette

AdrianC

knightstyle wrote: »

wish we had the 1.6 places for cars to park! 13 year old estate with 1 parking place per 4 bed house! Plus the roads are too narrow for parking unless you go half onto the pavement.
That is modern planning for you and we are in rural Lincolnshire where land is cheap.

So, umm, why did you buy on that estate...?

If developers found they couldn't sell without half-decent parking provision, they'd have to make it.

Barny1979

knightstyle wrote: »

adonis wish we had the 1.6 places for cars to park! 13 year old estate with 1 parking place per 4 bed house! Plus the roads are too narrow for parking unless you go half onto the pavement.
That is modern planning for you and we are in rural Lincolnshire where land is cheap.

The problem is though by supplying endless parking bays you lose value in the estate for the developer, but also does not encourage alternative forms of transport.

Mr_Singleton

Barny1979 wrote: »

also do not encourage alternative forms of transport.

Public transport does WAY enough all on its own to discourage people from using it, no need for developers to get involved.

Barny1979

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

Public transport does WAY enough all on its own to discourage people from using it, no need for developers to get involved.

Whereas stuck in endless queues of traffic does make the car enjoyable for certain journeys that could be done in other ways?

AdrianC

Barny1979 wrote: »

Whereas stuck in endless queues of traffic does make the car enjoyable for certain journeys that could be done in other ways?

Not to mention hunting high and low for a parking space that costs several quid an hour.

Robisere

I know of one person in a former place we lived, who had asked time and time again, for another family to stop parking in front of his drive, with 4 cars to his one. One morning the 4 car family woke up to see every area of glass on each of 4 cars, covered in white, stick-on panels. No idea where the panels came from, but the family found them very difficult to remove. One of them went to the parking victim's house and he denied it. Then he took a swing at him and discovered that the 'victim' of the parking was an amateur boxer. Police were called, a long conversation between two obviously bored but pleasant police officers developed into a screaming match by the multi-car family, with obscenities directed at the officers. Two of them were arrested. The boxer took no part in any of this, just watched from his doorway.

The result was a Police Caution for the two parkers. Nothing happened to the ex-boxer. The multi-car family eventually moved away after I left. It had been remarkably good entertainment while it lasted.

These disputes do no good to anyone except uninvolved observers.

reeac

My daughter and family have lived in .North London for many years. A whole area of 100 year old houses with no parking except on the road and some of those places occupied by skips as loft conversions are very much in vogue. They all seem to cope with it amicably albeit with a resident parking system in place ...I guess that you have to be grown up.

greatgimpo

Blackpool_Saver wrote: »

OK, let me try another way as you don't seem to be understanding me. If you don't have a car, a property without car parking is suitable.

...so long as you agree to not having guests arrive by car.

Barny1979

reeac wrote: »

My daughter and family have lived in .North London for many years. A whole area of 100 year old houses with no parking except on the road and some of those places occupied by skips as loft conversions are very much in vogue. They all seem to cope with it amicably albeit with a resident parking system in place ...I guess that you have to be grown up.

A permit scheme does help restrict the number of cars per household typically though and also London has better PT options.

bigadaj

AdrianC wrote: »

So, umm, why did you buy on that estate...?

If developers found they couldn't sell without half-decent parking provision, they'd have to make it.

Probably not the developers decision. Council and planners will dictate the number of plots and parking permitted, same for green space.

Most people give more thought to purchase of clothes than housing it seems, so people would buy the house and then just complain there's no parking, rather than do some research or give some thought and make an informed decision.

Many new estates will have provision for one or fewer cars per property, to encourage public transport use; whether that public transport exists or not isn't a concern. The principle is fine, but why not force the developers to suppl a bus service or put up a bond as part of the planning permission?