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Martyn1981

almillar wrote: »

M3 is £43,000 before sub not £42,000

With the numbers you're throwing around, you're in no position to argue over a grand!

Stand your ground. According to Google search on prices, and the Tesla site 'design your car' they start at £42k (£38,500 after the plug in grant deduction of £3,500).

[But, of course, the prices do fluctuate, so worth checking.]

ABrass

No one has prices for the ID.3 yet, the 1st edition was around £40k I believe before they allocated all 30,000 of them. It should be less than a model 3, it's less car even with the 1st edition, but we'll see.

Martyn1981

Some love for VW as they seem to be trying to do the right thing.

Volkswagen Praises Tesla, Commits To More Renewable Energy

The EV revolution certainly gave Volkswagen a chance to recover from its self-inflicted wounds after its diesel cheating scandal broke in 2015. It has come roaring back from that debacle to recapture its position as one of the largest car companies in the world. As part of its commitment to building electric vehicles, the company is also pursuing a plan to become carbon neutral in all of its manufacturing activities by 2050.

JKenH

Martyn1981 wrote: »

Stand your ground. According to Google search on prices, and the Tesla site 'design your car' they start at £42k (£38,500 after the plug in grant deduction of £3,500).

[But, of course, the prices do fluctuate, so worth checking.]

If you do work through the configurator and ignore all options the price quoted is £39,490 even though it says £38,500 on the first page.

Martyn1981

Short little article here, but interesting to see the rate of growth in these four countries. Note these are PEV's not just BEV's.

The EV Adoption Ramps in 4 Top Electric Vehicle Countries

As you can see, while not identical, the four countries have followed a similar growth trend after hitting 2% or 3% plug-in vehicle market share. Many other countries have just hit 2% or 3% market share (in 2019), some are even up to 5–6%. Will they follow the same growth trends in coming years? Will several more countries, including China, rise to 15% plug-in market share within 2–3 years?

JKenH

Plug-in postcodes: Locations where demand for electric cars rose the most last year and regions best served with public charge points


https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-7886643/UK-locations-electric-car-demand-boomed-2019.html

While EV registrations rose by as much as 500% in some areas, surprisingly in others, they actually fell by as much as 78%. Birmingham saw the biggest rise in EV registrations and no doubt as a consequence we see West Midlands is now at the bottom of the charts when it comes to chargers per vehicle.

Could the imbalance between charging points and EVs start a negative feedback loop? With an abundance of chargers EV take up will improve but if roll out of chargers doesn’t respond will new EV entrants be deterred?

GreatApe

EV support is silly

8,000 petrol stations in the UK
The government should just require every single petrol station to install 2 X 50KW rapid chargers
These should be free for the electricity with maybe just a token £1 to start which goes to the station owner. Limited to 30 mins rapid charge and the government not the station pays for the electricity and the installation

Do you worry about running out of petrol?
No because petrol stations are common enough that your sure you'll find one before the petrol runs out

Along side this there should be a deployment of 100,000 free 7.2KW chargers in popular locations like supermarket and shopping centers and other high useage car parks and locations

With this mass deployment of chargers we wouldn't need long range EVs
This allows BEVs to be cheaper to manufacture and allow them to be more energy efficient too as they would be lighter and lowers the pollution cost of making batteries.

Current cost to consumers for electrification is about £80/mile
So allowing 250 mile cars to become 125 mile cars would reduce sale prices by ~£10,000
With so many chargers everywhere the vast majority of people would be okay with these 100 mile cars
And with free electricity it would be a huge boost to sales and confidence

100,000 electricity points is virtually everywhere
Electricity charging points would be 5 X more common than petrol stations
Plus most people would still charge at home most of the time

This also solves the problem for those who can't charge at home
Free charging topping up here and there

If the average car visits a supermarket once a week for 1h
And visits a shopping mall 20x a year for 3h
And visits the local high street or restaurants or cinema or other activities 20x a year for 3h
That's almost 5,300 miles of free charging and covers 74% of annual mileage
The other 26% they can do supercharger top ups or the on street chargers that already exist and would be deployed under this 100,000 charger roll out

Martyn1981

LEVC celebrates best sales year in history

• 2,507 electric tx models sold in 2019
• significant rise in demand from taxi and ride sharing shuttle services, more than double 2018 sales
• consistent planned growth month-on-month since april 2019
• range grows further this year with the launch of a new electric van
• levc continues its strategic objective of being the leading green commercial mobility provider

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the london ev company is celebrating a record sales year, thanks to month-on-month growth in 2019, delivering an impressive 2,507 sales of its electric tx model and more than doubling the volume of the previous year. The tx has not only proved successful in london but across the uk and overseas too, with growing demand from taxi operators and ride sharing shuttle services in germany, france, switzerland, denmark, middle east and japan.

Martyn1981

News/plans from Kia. Got to say, given how good their Niro seems to be, and the Hyundai Kona, I can't help thinking that their plans are a tad weak and non-committal, but up is still a good direction to aim, so all the best to them..

Kia: 11 New Electric Vehicle Models & 500,000 Annual EV Sales By 2025

With that context out of the way, here are key targets Kia announced in what it called its “Plan S” strategy:

• 11 EV models in production by 2025
• 500,000 annual EV sales by 2026 (excluding China)
• 1 million annual “ecofriendly vehicle” sales by 2026
• 25% of Kia sales “ecofriendly vehicles” by end of 2025 (which basically means ~12.5% of Kia sales should be EVs)
• 1 dedicated EV model (only an electric option — like the Nissan LEAF or BMW i3)
• Kia gobbling up 6.6% of non-China global EV sales by end of 2025 (which means Kia is expecting ~7,575,757 EV sales a year outside of China — Volkswagen and Tesla together are targeting more than half of that total, based on my back-of-the-napkin calculations)

“The Plan S strategy outlines Kia’s preemptive and enterprising ‘shift’ from a business system focused on internal combustion engine vehicles toward one centered on electric vehicles and customized mobility solutions,” the company adds.

buglawton

This was in the news over a week ago.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-01-17/wireless-charging-for-electric-taxis-to-be-launched-in-uk-first/

Electric taxis in the city (of Nottingham) will be able to recharge their batteries by parking over five plates in the road while waiting for their next passengers

Which led me to thinking: How efficient is wireless charging vs plug-in? Surely there's a fair bit of energy loss?