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  • Coastalwatch
    Coastalwatch Posts: 3,608 Forumite
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    Good to see the study below confirming that V2G technology offers great benefits all round to society. Reductions in CO2 emissions, financial savings to vehicle owners and huge savings to the Grid(potentially ยฃ885M/yr) not to mention reducing the stress upon it.
    The report also states that challenges lay ahead in order for this to take place so perhaps another area of focus for Green Recovery efforts!

    Analysis on the savings potential of V2G technology

    In a joint white paper, Nissan, E.On Drive and Londonโ€™s Imperial College have analysed the CO2 savings potential and economic benefits of vehicle-to-grid charging technology and backed them up with concrete figures.

    According to the document, the potential savings per year and electric vehicle is a CO2 reduction of around 60 metric tons. At the same time, in terms of the power gridโ€™s operating costs, there is a savings potential of up to 12,000 pounds (around 13,300 euros) โ€“ also per year and electric vehicle. According to the analysis, fleet operators can expect financial benefits of 700 to 1,250 pounds (776 to 1,386 euros) per V2G-capable electric vehicle. Vehicle-to-grid technology could help reduce the electricity systemโ€™s overall cost by up to 885 million pounds (just over 980 million euros) per year.

    The white paperโ€™s authors also see huge savings financially for power system operators and vehicle fleets, and environmentally by reducing CO2 emissions. In the document, Nissan, E.On Drive and Imperial College also address some of the challenges that must be overcome in the early days of establishing V2G. The trio cites creating a reliable business model among them
    East coast, lat 51.97. 8.26kw SSE, 23ยฐ pitch + 0.59kw WSW vertical. Nissan Leaf plus Zappi charger and 2 x ASHP's. Givenergy 8.2 & 9.5 kWh batts, 2 x 3 kW ac inverters. Indra V2H . CoCharger Host, Interest in Ripple Energy & Abundance.
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,408 Forumite
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    Extracts from this week's carbon Commentary newsletter:

    1,ย EVs. Recent sales figures for EVs show wide disparities between European countries and China compared the rest of the world. While EV market shares in the US and Australia are still in the very low single digits, shares inย Germany, the UK and France were 27%, 23% and 19% respectively in December. Most of these cars were pure battery vehicles. The sales of plug-in hybrids are growing less fast. 2020 as a whole saw at least a three-fold rise in the share of EVs in the main European countries. Volkswagen did particularly well across major markets. Norwayโ€™s sales figures for 2020 showed that 54% of cars sold were fully electric and the trade association suggests that this will rise to over 65% this year and also that the 2025 target of zero internal combustion engine sales is in reach. But we should note that nearly half Norwegian purchasers are still buying petrol or diesel cars, even after decades of very strong policy and taxation support for EVs. Separately, an interesting UKย surveyย showed that only 1% of EV owners intended to return to a conventional car. 91% were entirely happy with their electric vehicle.

    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,133 Forumite
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    Good to see the study below confirming that V2G technology offers great benefits all round to society. Reductions in CO2 emissions, financial savings to vehicle owners and huge savings to the Grid(potentially ยฃ885M/yr) not to mention reducing the stress upon it.
    The report also states that challenges lay ahead in order for this to take place so perhaps another area of focus for Green Recovery efforts!

    Analysis on the savings potential of V2G technology

    In a joint white paper, Nissan, E.On Drive and Londonโ€™s Imperial College have analysed the CO2 savings potential and economic benefits of vehicle-to-grid charging technology and backed them up with concrete figures.

    According to the document, the potential savings per year and electric vehicle is a CO2 reduction of around 60 metric tons. At the same time, in terms of the power gridโ€™s operating costs, there is a savings potential of up to 12,000 pounds (around 13,300 euros) โ€“ also per year and electric vehicle. According to the analysis, fleet operators can expect financial benefits of 700 to 1,250 pounds (776 to 1,386 euros) per V2G-capable electric vehicle. Vehicle-to-grid technology could help reduce the electricity systemโ€™s overall cost by up to 885 million pounds (just over 980 million euros) per year.

    The white paperโ€™s authors also see huge savings financially for power system operators and vehicle fleets, and environmentally by reducing CO2 emissions. In the document, Nissan, E.On Drive and Imperial College also address some of the challenges that must be overcome in the early days of establishing V2G. The trio cites creating a reliable business model among them
    So a saving of 12k to the grid operator and a payment to the vehicle owner of 700 quid....sounds like the UK
    I think....
  • Solarchaser
    Solarchaser Posts: 1,758 Forumite
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    Good to see the study below confirming that V2G technology offers great benefits all round to society. Reductions in CO2 emissions, financial savings to vehicle owners and huge savings to the Grid(potentially ยฃ885M/yr) not to mention reducing the stress upon it.
    The report also states that challenges lay ahead in order for this to take place so perhaps another area of focus for Green Recovery efforts!

    Analysis on the savings potential of V2G technology

    In a joint white paper, Nissan, E.On Drive and Londonโ€™s Imperial College have analysed the CO2 savings potential and economic benefits of vehicle-to-grid charging technology and backed them up with concrete figures.

    According to the document, the potential savings per year and electric vehicle is a CO2 reduction of around 60 metric tons. At the same time, in terms of the power gridโ€™s operating costs, there is a savings potential of up to 12,000 pounds (around 13,300 euros) โ€“ also per year and electric vehicle. According to the analysis, fleet operators can expect financial benefits of 700 to 1,250 pounds (776 to 1,386 euros) per V2G-capable electric vehicle. Vehicle-to-grid technology could help reduce the electricity systemโ€™s overall cost by up to 885 million pounds (just over 980 million euros) per year.

    The white paperโ€™s authors also see huge savings financially for power system operators and vehicle fleets, and environmentally by reducing CO2 emissions. In the document, Nissan, E.On Drive and Imperial College also address some of the challenges that must be overcome in the early days of establishing V2G. The trio cites creating a reliable business model among them
    It's interesting for sure.
    I see wallbox now does a v2g charger.
    It seems to be around a grand.
    I was thinking rather than going for a zappi for 850 I may go for a wallbox.

    However they haven't replied to my enquiry from 2 weeks ago ๐Ÿ™„
    West central Scotland
    4kw sse since 2014 and 6.6kw wsw / ene split since 2019
    24kwh leaf, 75Kwh Tesla and Lux 3600 with 60Kwh storage
  • EVandPV
    EVandPV Posts: 2,112 Forumite
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    Good to see the study below confirming that V2G technology offers great benefits all round to society. Reductions in CO2 emissions, financial savings to vehicle owners and huge savings to the Grid(potentially ยฃ885M/yr) not to mention reducing the stress upon it.
    The report also states that challenges lay ahead in order for this to take place so perhaps another area of focus for Green Recovery efforts!

    Analysis on the savings potential of V2G technology

    In a joint white paper, Nissan, E.On Drive and Londonโ€™s Imperial College have analysed the CO2 savings potential and economic benefits of vehicle-to-grid charging technology and backed them up with concrete figures.

    According to the document, the potential savings per year and electric vehicle is a CO2 reduction of around 60 metric tons. At the same time, in terms of the power gridโ€™s operating costs, there is a savings potential of up to 12,000 pounds (around 13,300 euros) โ€“ also per year and electric vehicle. According to the analysis, fleet operators can expect financial benefits of 700 to 1,250 pounds (776 to 1,386 euros) per V2G-capable electric vehicle. Vehicle-to-grid technology could help reduce the electricity systemโ€™s overall cost by up to 885 million pounds (just over 980 million euros) per year.

    The white paperโ€™s authors also see huge savings financially for power system operators and vehicle fleets, and environmentally by reducing CO2 emissions. In the document, Nissan, E.On Drive and Imperial College also address some of the challenges that must be overcome in the early days of establishing V2G. The trio cites creating a reliable business model among them
    It's interesting for sure.
    I see wallbox now does a v2g charger.
    It seems to be around a grand.
    I was thinking rather than going for a zappi for 850 I may go for a wallbox.

    However they haven't replied to my enquiry from 2 weeks ago ๐Ÿ™„
    Does it also do v2h or is it just for v2g trials ?
    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
  • EricMears
    EricMears Posts: 3,310 Forumite
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    EVandPV said:
    Does it also do v2h or is it just for v2g trials ?
    I looked at their website a few weeks ago and decided that if you have full access to it via their app,ย  you would be able to set it up to discharge at will.ย  However,ย  reading the small print on the various trial sites it looks as though user would have no control over the unit.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • Solarchaser
    Solarchaser Posts: 1,758 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Good to see the study below confirming that V2G technology offers great benefits all round to society. Reductions in CO2 emissions, financial savings to vehicle owners and huge savings to the Grid(potentially ยฃ885M/yr) not to mention reducing the stress upon it.
    The report also states that challenges lay ahead in order for this to take place so perhaps another area of focus for Green Recovery efforts!

    Analysis on the savings potential of V2G technology

    In a joint white paper, Nissan, E.On Drive and Londonโ€™s Imperial College have analysed the CO2 savings potential and economic benefits of vehicle-to-grid charging technology and backed them up with concrete figures.

    According to the document, the potential savings per year and electric vehicle is a CO2 reduction of around 60 metric tons. At the same time, in terms of the power gridโ€™s operating costs, there is a savings potential of up to 12,000 pounds (around 13,300 euros) โ€“ also per year and electric vehicle. According to the analysis, fleet operators can expect financial benefits of 700 to 1,250 pounds (776 to 1,386 euros) per V2G-capable electric vehicle. Vehicle-to-grid technology could help reduce the electricity systemโ€™s overall cost by up to 885 million pounds (just over 980 million euros) per year.

    The white paperโ€™s authors also see huge savings financially for power system operators and vehicle fleets, and environmentally by reducing CO2 emissions. In the document, Nissan, E.On Drive and Imperial College also address some of the challenges that must be overcome in the early days of establishing V2G. The trio cites creating a reliable business model among them
    It's interesting for sure.
    I see wallbox now does a v2g charger.
    It seems to be around a grand.
    I was thinking rather than going for a zappi for 850 I may go for a wallbox.

    However they haven't replied to my enquiry from 2 weeks ago ๐Ÿ™„
    I think I need to retract this, I now can't find it anywhere.
    The brite accessories website just constantly crashes and I can't get another website to give a price.

    The wallbox website is pretty misleading as it talks about the quasar and then at the bottom of the page lists a copper instead, im wondering if I've followed links for the copper and thought it was a version of the quasar.
    It comes in at ยฃ970.

    This is why you shouldn't research stuff when you can't sleep at 3am ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ˜ณ
    West central Scotland
    4kw sse since 2014 and 6.6kw wsw / ene split since 2019
    24kwh leaf, 75Kwh Tesla and Lux 3600 with 60Kwh storage
  • JKenH
    JKenH Posts: 5,140 Forumite
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    Good to see the study below confirming that V2G technology offers great benefits all round to society. Reductions in CO2 emissions, financial savings to vehicle owners and huge savings to the Grid(potentially ยฃ885M/yr) not to mention reducing the stress upon it.
    The report also states that challenges lay ahead in order for this to take place so perhaps another area of focus for Green Recovery efforts!

    Analysis on the savings potential of V2G technology

    In a joint white paper, Nissan, E.On Drive and Londonโ€™s Imperial College have analysed the CO2 savings potential and economic benefits of vehicle-to-grid charging technology and backed them up with concrete figures.

    According to the document, the potential savings per year and electric vehicle is a CO2 reduction of around 60 metric tons. At the same time, in terms of the power gridโ€™s operating costs, there is a savings potential of up to 12,000 pounds (around 13,300 euros) โ€“ also per year and electric vehicle. According to the analysis, fleet operators can expect financial benefits of 700 to 1,250 pounds (776 to 1,386 euros) per V2G-capable electric vehicle. Vehicle-to-grid technology could help reduce the electricity systemโ€™s overall cost by up to 885 million pounds (just over 980 million euros) per year.

    The white paperโ€™s authors also see huge savings financially for power system operators and vehicle fleets, and environmentally by reducing CO2 emissions. In the document, Nissan, E.On Drive and Imperial College also address some of the challenges that must be overcome in the early days of establishing V2G. The trio cites creating a reliable business model among them
    It's interesting for sure.
    I see wallbox now does a v2g charger.
    It seems to be around a grand.
    I was thinking rather than going for a zappi for 850 I may go for a wallbox.

    However they haven't replied to my enquiry from 2 weeks ago ๐Ÿ™„
    I think I need to retract this, I now can't find it anywhere.
    The brite accessories website just constantly crashes and I can't get another website to give a price.

    The wallbox website is pretty misleading as it talks about the quasar and then at the bottom of the page lists a copper instead, im wondering if I've followed links for the copper and thought it was a version of the quasar.
    It comes in at ยฃ970.

    This is why you shouldn't research stuff when you can't sleep at 3am ๐Ÿ™„

    There is a UK trial going ahead involving the quasar but unfortunately it is limited to the WPD DNO area. The value of the quasar is quoted as ยฃ5,500 but participants get to keep it at the ย end of the trial for ยฃ250.

    https://electricnation.org.uk/2020/10/08/electric-nation-vehicle-to-grid-trial-to-partner-with-wallbox-as-v2g-charger-supplier/


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