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QrizB

Martyn1981 said:

Very, very big BEV news ..... so to speak.

That's a lot of truck!

Wonder how many miles-per-kWh they get?

Martyn1981

QrizB said:

Martyn1981 said:

Very, very big BEV news ..... so to speak.

That's a lot of truck!

Wonder how many miles-per-kWh they get?

I'm guessing a lot (code for making it up as I go along), but here goes.

So, with a max load of about 240tn it'll weigh in at ~400tn.

The Tesla semi seems to be averaging about 1.7kWh/mile, but that will I assume include running empty, and some lighter than max 40tn loads, so let's say 2.5kWh/mile at max weight.

I'd guess the dump truck has more rolling resistance/grip proportionately, due to the terrain it operates on, but not sure, and whilst it can do about 40mph, I assume less, so its 'poor' aerodynamics (understatement of the century ;-) ) don't matter too much.

So maybe just go with 10x 2.5kWh in relation to weight, so 25kWh per mile at max weight?????

Assuming they charge on Octopus cheap rate at night  then that's about £1.75 per mile.

debitcardmayhem

Martyn1981 said:

QrizB said:

Martyn1981 said:

Very, very big BEV news ..... so to speak.

That's a lot of truck!

Wonder how many miles-per-kWh they get?

I'm guessing a lot (code for making it up as I go along), but here goes.

So, with a max load of about 240tn it'll weigh in at ~400tn.

The Tesla semi seems to be averaging about 1.7kWh/mile, but that will I assume include running empty, and some lighter than max 40tn loads, so let's say 2.5kWh/mile at max weight.

I'd guess the dump truck has more rolling resistance/grip proportionately, due to the terrain it operates on, but not sure, and whilst it can do about 40mph, I assume less, so its 'poor' aerodynamics (understatement of the century ;-) ) don't matter too much.

So maybe just go with 10x 2.5kWh in relation to weight, so 25kWh per mile at max weight?????

Assuming they charge on Octopus cheap rate at night  then that's about £1.75 per mile.

I guess, (also making it up) you have forgotten the fact that  a lot of the time they will be static , just driving the shovels and lifting bucket loads from left to right up and down and vice versa. Your estimate in could be out by a factor of (inserts guess) 😎

Martyn1981

Great news for BEV sales in Sept according to SMMT preliminary data, as they almost matched petrol sales.

Sadly, that only applies to chart 3, which also only adds up to 77%. But still nice to see 



Edit - should really include the first chart, before I confuse anyone:
Edit 2 - They've told me that they corrected the error this morning, but now it seems the Sept results have been removed.

Martyn1981

Well this sounds very promising, an industry actually asking for mandated targets to help them plan ahead, and transition to cleaner vehicles.

Logistics Giants, Transport Companies, & Power Sector Call on President von der Leyen to Set Zero Emission Targets for Clean Deliveries

A group of Europe’s largest logistics, transport and power companies, including Pepsico, Nestlé, IKEA and EDF, is urging the European Commission to set binding zero-emission targets for large shippers and buyers of transport services.

Signatories include some of the biggest players in freight and logistics, demonstrating that businesses are ready to lead the transition to a climate-neutral Europe with the right policy support.

Grumpy_chap

EV sales hit a high, according to the motoring section of this site:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629870/are-new-cars-really-as-bad-as-they-say#latest