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Stupidly ignored parking charge notice- hearing today update

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  • Redx
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    I do not believe you have a strong defence, especially due to ignoring this from the first PCN until now , they didn't get paid , period

    You should write a without prejudice letter and make an offer to settle at a price you consider reasonable allowing both parties to walk away , paying for the mistakes and allowing PP a profit and vindication

    I don't normally say this , but here I am in agreement with them due to providing a service and not being paid

    I liken it to paying for bed and breakfast with a card with no funds or a cheque that bounces , even if you were unaware that the bill wasn't paid at the time , ignoring subsequent letters hasn't helped

    The default fare on a London bus can be something like ten times the daily fare , so those with an invalid ticket are charged significantly more , especially if they fail to appeal it promptly, even more so if it goes to court

    Make a without prejudice offer , asap , in writing , to PP themselves
  • Cbay27
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    Thanks so an actual letter rather than an email, I’m guessing they’re more likely to settle at £100 rather than £60
  • Redx
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    It's your choice , try email , if they fail to respond , send a letter , the point is not to phone , do it in writing , even if it's by email , copy your own email address into the destination box as well as theirs , for proof of delivery and your own copy , so not just your sent folder
  • Cbay27
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    Should I also contact pp legal?
  • Redx
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    I would be sending it to both , just to be sure , it's probably the same desk anyway
  • Cbay27
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    Thanks so much for your help, I've been searching the site to try and find a template for writing the offer and haven't found much. This is what I have come up with if you have a chance to give me any tips that would be great. Its just the text part rather than the whole letter.




    Regarding the Parking Charge Notice referenced above I would like to put forward a without prejudice offer. I was under the impression that I had paid for parking that day as I had called Ring Go to pay for the parking. It has just come to my attention that in fact the payment did not go through as I orginally intended. I feel that the outstanding amount of £170 is unreasonable bearing in mind the parking duration was 3 hours 40 minutes. I would like to offer to pay £60 as per the original notice as this covers the unpaid parking and any administration costs on your part.


    I look forward to hearing your response.
  • Cbay27
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    I have just found this would it be worth including it?


    Your letter requests a fine of £xxx - a fine is illegal under UK law.
    If you are claiming that there is a contract between the driver of the vehicle and yourselves then I must point out the provisions of the the The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 which specifically provides under paragraph 5 (1) "A contractual term which has not been individually negotiated shall be regarded as unfair if, contrary to the requirement of good faith, it causes a significant imbalance in the parties' rights and obligations arising under the contract, to the detriment of the consumer"
    The effect of these provisions means that if there was a contract, which is in dispute, then you are only entitled to payment of an amount which accurately reflects the loss of income you may have suffered arising from that alleged contract.
  • When you say you "just" found it, you found it on a dud thread years ago. The UTCCR got replaced by the CRA in 2015, four years ago.
  • Redx
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    Try searching the forum , changing to view posts , using the key words

    Without prejudice

    As mentioned above , the CRA came in 4 years ago
  • Cbay27
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    I have done that but I have limited time before my twins wake up and I want to get this sorted ! I really do appreciate your help. Does what I have written sound ok? I came across the above on appeal now.com not knowing it was out of date I will look up CRA now
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