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Vehicle Incorrectly Seized

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  • marlot
    marlot Posts: 4,974 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    ...E7GNR is currently available for £700 - from the same seller who google's cache shows previously listing your plate for the same price.
    Or for £399 direct from DVLA
  • Sea_Shell
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    Maybe he works for Great Northern Rail....or competes in the Great North Run!!!?

    Still a silly amount of money to spend on a nonsense plate. You must be loaded!
    How's it going, AKA, Nutwatch? - 12 month spends to date = 2.60% of current retirement "pot" (as at end May 2025)
  • Manxman_in_exile
    Manxman_in_exile Posts: 8,380 Forumite
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    edited 18 November 2019 at 1:29PM
    In answer to your question you could claim off the police any expense you've incurred as a result of their actions. If you win the court case about the insurance charge (which I would have thought you will if your story is accurate) it should make it easier to do so. Don't forget to claim for any legal costs if you are represented at trial.


    After the trial I would (as has already been suggested) write to the Chief Constable a letter of complaint, with a copy to the local Police and Crime Commissioner, outlining what has happened and detailing your resultant financial losses. I wouldn't be surprised if they just pay up without you needing to sue them (if your story is complete and accurate).


    There's nothing to stop you claiming damages for "distress" etc but I doubt you'll get anywhere. You've been charged but not convicted and you seem to think you've got a cast-iron defence to the charge. Why would you be distressed in those circumstances? I'd be looking forward to my day in court - which you've opted for.


    (What's the point of a personalised number plate if you have to give people an explanation? I'd assumed you must be an East 17 fan...)
  • Scrapit
    Scrapit Posts: 2,304 Forumite
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    He does wear yeezys. That means he has a history of poor judgement.
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    Oh please Stuart. You’re telling me you don’t make small legal mistakes either? You haven’t done 31mph on a 30? You haven’t watched a movie online?

    Don’t be throwing assumptions around like “Rich kid”. Very small minded and immature. I assure you everything i have is because i’ve worked very hard to get there and nothing has been paid for.

    I have video evidence that i even gave to the papers about four police cars pulling me over because they thought that the plates not registering meant that the car was stolen and i’d dust them. Which i don’t blame, i mean a Cupra against a couple of Insignia’s does stand a solid chance. But funnily enough, i actually pulled over for them before they even turned on their sirens to make their jobs a little easier.

    It’s not anti-police propaganda, it’s me telling what happened to me without having the privilege of a producer form or the opportunity to show my documents that a “Stuart” may have had.

    If you care so much, I’ll tell you my court date and when my license is cleared and i’m reimbursed and compensated for my costs, you’ll be standing there with nothing left to say.
  • In answer to your question you could claim off the police any expense you've incurred as a result of their actions. If you win the court case about the insurance charge (which I would have thought you will if your story is accurate) it should make it easier to do so. Don't forget to claim for any legal costs if you are represented at trial.


    After the trial I would (as has already been suggested) write to the Chief Constable a letter of complaint, with a copy to the local Police and Crime Commissioner, outlining what has happened and detailing your resultant financial losses. I wouldn't be surprised if they just pay up without you needing to sue them (if your story is complete and accurate).


    There's nothing to stop you claiming damages for "distress" etc but I doubt you'll get anywhere. You've been charged but not convicted and you seem to think you've got a cast-iron defence to the charge. Why would you be distressed in those circumstances? I'd be looking forward to my day in court - which you've opted for.


    (What's the point of a personalised number plate if you have to give people an explanation? I'd assumed you must be an East 17 fan...)

    Only if they've done something wrong and I'm not sure they have. The vehicle was shown as having no insurance and the driver hasn't produce any evidence at the time of a policy being in force.

    He would have been warned about the prospect of seizure so why didn't he use his phone to produce a certificate to refer to the mib online.

    His choice to go to the press later.
  • CCPECP
    CCPECP Posts: 101 Forumite
    Thank you.
    marlot wrote: »
    As the police have ignored the incorrect spacing, I'm going to as well.

    I don't see that you've done anything wrong*

    The offer of 6 points & fine will be a Fixed Penalty Notice (FPN). If you get an FPN you can choose to plead guilty or not guilty. If you're found guilty, the court will decide on the appropriate level of points and/or fine.

    As for claiming your other costs back (impound and storage), you'll need to read up on the law in that area to see if you can reclaim those. Logic would say that you can, but I don't know the law.

    * In relation to the things you've been charged with
  • CCPECP
    CCPECP Posts: 101 Forumite
    Thank you.
    AdrianC wrote: »
    Children, PLEASE!

    Let's all stop and have a little breather, eh?

    1. You were stopped because the car wasn't on MIB. That's no great surprise - it can take a little while for a change to filter through. They don't have to give you 7 days to produce, and would be wrong to let you drive away if they suspected you were uninsured. You say you could prove that you were covered, but they didn't give you the chance. That's one which is for the police complaints process to deal with, as is your allegation of discrimination on the basis of race. We weren't there. You were, and so were bodycams.

    2. You don't yet have 6pts or a £300 fine, because you've rejected the fixed penalty. You're going to court for the charge, with what should be a solid defence against the charge, so you should come away with your licence clean.

    3. You can't seriously claim that the police are responsible for losses and abuse arising from your car being recognised in the street when the only reason it's recognised is because you voluntarily sought publicity in the gutter tabloids.

    4. While you may be able to reclaim the impound charges, if they have left you in debt to the extent that your credit score is suffering from missed payments, then perhaps spending many hundreds of pounds on buying and transferring a "private" plate onto your car was not your highest financial priority? E7GNR is currently available for £700 - from the same seller who google's cache shows previously listing your plate for the same price.
  • CCPECP
    CCPECP Posts: 101 Forumite
    It’s hilarious because i can wear what i want and buy what i want and not have to actually listen to your judgement. Stick to your Nike Air Max’s. Idiot.
    Scrapit wrote: »
    He does wear yeezys. That means he has a history of poor judgement.
  • CCPECP
    CCPECP Posts: 101 Forumite
    If i clearly have stated i didn’t have the opportunity to show documents then maybe go from that? Officer said to me it didn’t matter about the documents i had on my phone as they have to go by their database.


    George333 wrote: »
    Only if they've done something wrong and I'm not sure they have. The vehicle was shown as having no insurance and the driver hasn't produce any evidence at the time of a policy being in force.

    He would have been warned about the prospect of seizure so why didn't he use his phone to produce a certificate to refer to the mib online.

    His choice to go to the press later.
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