Help, got until 24th November to submit Defence for VCS

Le_Kirk

Leviathan747 said:

KeithP said:

I can only guess you haven't got around to reading the telephone hearings thread yet?

nosferatu1001 said:

The telephone hearings thread tells you to email everything. It tells you in detail what to do. It's essential reading. 

I have read that thread, yes.  The question posed was how can a Judge make a decision on a paper hearing...if he doesn't have the witness statements. Perhaps a moot point! 

But, if you have read the Telephone Hearings thread, you will know that the courts are stating that the defendant and claimant must "get together" and agree and send a consolidated pack of defence and witness statement to an e-mail address determined by the court, therefore the judge will have the witness statement

Leviathan747

Having phoned the court today, to get their email address, things become clearer.  I was told that the Judge will come in the day before the hearing to collect our Witness Statements.  The court has both of them.  So I am assuming the same would be true, in this instance, if a telephone hearing was offered instead, as they have hard copies of both our WS.

Unable to get through to VCS litigation department to speak to anyone.  Will state this in the email to Judge Bellamy and CC them in.

Fruitcake

Leviathan747 said:

Having phoned the court today, to get their email address, things become clearer.  I was told that the Judge will come in the day before the hearing to collect our Witness Statements.  The court has both of them.  So I am assuming the same would be true, in this instance, if a telephone hearing was offered instead, as they have hard copies of both our WS.

Unable to get through to VCS litigation department to speak to anyone.  Will state this in the email to Judge Bellamy and CC them in.

Email any and every email address you can find for the scammers. Send a copy to yourself and take screenshots. That way you will have proof you took reasonable steps to contact them.

nosferatu1001

Indeed, YOu taking the lead is good, and make sure you makje it clear youve done your best on this. 
I imagine theyre ruing their 'bot claim model now that so many require their back office to do some actual manual work - coudl be an issue for them!

Leviathan747

Sent the following email to VCS litigation department:

Dear Sir/Madam

I have tried to contact your department by telephone several times, but cannot get through on 0114 231 7851.  There is currently just an endless automated loop of options.

I have received a General Form of Judgment or Order, which is offering a hearing on papers alone.  I will be notifying the court by email that I do not agree to this procedure being used.

Attached above is a copy of the bundle that has already been sent by post to yourselves. I will be including this in the email to the court.   Could you email me what you wish to include from your side please, as soon as possible, should the court need a combined email version of both of our bundles.

I look forward to your prompt response.

Yours faithfully
XX

Have already received an automated response: "Please refrain from submitting unnecessary duplicate correspondence by only using one method of email, post or fax".  Also saying they will process the email within 28 days lol. Screenshots taken.

Snakes_Belly

They are probably furloughed. Can't imagine SRS paying staff when income must be falling. All you can do is evidence that you have sent them the paperwork. 

D_P_Dance

Never ever telephone a scanmmer, everything on paper.  Judges love paper trails.  

nosferatu1001

Yep, and their roboclaim model falls flat when they have to actually process something outside of the usual 4min template rubbish.
Hopefully theyll fail to cmoply and these will all get struck out. 

Leviathan747

Email reply from VCS:

Dear Sir

We already have a copy of your bundle received by post. Our evidence was filed and served on the 11 March 2020.

We have agreed to a paper hearing, but, in light of your refusal the matter will no doubt be listed for a face to face hearing in the near future by the Court.

I shall look out for any orders.
XX
Associate Legal Executive

Coupon-mad

Oh dear, this still looks like it's going to a paper hearing then.  What a disaster...

Can I clarify:
1.  Did you get their WS and evidence and did it arrive before yours, so that you had time to rebut theirs?
2.  Did your bundle already include a supplementary WS about the abuse of process, and the Soton judgment?