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Shocking price for vehicle tax or is it just me!

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  • fred246
    fred246 Posts: 3,620 Forumite
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    edited 24 September 2019 at 4:57AM
    Jackmydad wrote: »
    Running a car is an expensive business.
    Always has been, always will be.

    My last car I kept for 17 years. At the end it was just a runabout but the costs were:
    Emissions tax £130 per year
    Insurance £110-130
    MOT £40
    Service £30
    Occassional repairs/tyres etc
    I could have coped with public transport/taxis but I felt that the costs were reasonable so kept it on the drive as a second car that I could use whenever needed. I never thought of it as an 'expensive business'. It's all relative though.
    I always felt it wrong that the emissions tax was the most expensive item because i didn't emit much as my mileage was low. Should be added to the cost of fuel.
  • sevenhills
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    fred246 wrote: »
    I always felt it wrong that the emissions tax was the most expensive item because i didn't emit much as my mileage was low. Should be added to the cost of fuel.


    The best thing to take smokey vehicles off the road is the MOT, but it seems like they will pass almost anything.
  • roddydogs
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    Wait till you buy a new car, old £20, now £130
  • AdrianC
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    fred246 wrote: »
    My last car I kept for 17 years. At the end it was just a runabout but the costs were:
    Emissions tax £130 per year
    No, not "emissions tax". VED. Vehicle Excise Duty.

    And if it was pre-CO2, pre-2001, it'd be £160 for <1550cc, £265 for larger.
    I always felt it wrong that the emissions tax was the most expensive item because i didn't emit much as my mileage was low. Should be added to the cost of fuel.
    It is. Unless you're forgetting the 58p/litre fuel duty plus VAT.

    So if you do 3,000 miles/year at 30mpg, you're getting through 450 litres of fuel. At £1.30/litre, that's £98 of VAT and £261 of duty, so £359 of tax on the fuel you use.

    To replace VED with extra fuel duty - and be revenue neutral - would add around 11p per litre, and would massively penalise haulage businesses, putting them out of business.
  • almillar
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    If you buy a small car and fit roofbox, trailer, and fill the boot - you pay little tax.

    I think the majority of people don't fit roofboxes and trailers to small cars. Do you think you've discovered some kind of tax loophole?

    What if you fit a roofbox and trailer to the big car?!
  • Jackmydad
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    SHAFT wrote: »
    So you don't want to compare like for like.

    I'm sure an 80s Lada of FSO was cheaper than most modern new cars.

    To be honest, the 1948 Anglebox had about as much in common with a modern car, as a 1940s telephone has with a smartphone.
  • andygb
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    I think you will find that owning a car is now cheaper than it used to be.
    UK petrol prices in the UK are among the cheapest in Western Europe.




    I have just returned from Austria, Germany and France and the price of both petrol and diesel was far lower than the UK.
    I was paying E1.19 for diesel in Germany and Austria which worked out at £1.07 a litre with the exchange rate I got on the credit card.
  • andygb
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    You’ve just made this figures up, Germany’s Not 60 cents per liter, for example, it’s €1.439 and your other numbers are way off too.

    I can only assume you’ve never bought fuel on the continent and can’t read a simple table...




    That is a bit steep, here it is showing E1.319 and diesel E1.189.


    https://en.tankbillig.info/56075-koblenz/super-e10
  • ftsos wrote: »
    And does £200 a year sound right?

    Yes. Someone has to pay for the infrastructure you share with the cyclists, pony trekkers & other road users. Plus as the motorways get smarter & smarter, it'll only be a matter of time before VED is there just to penalise the gruesome emission vehicles and tolls cover the rest.

    Says one thinking of a horse & cart for the next means of getting about.
  • I've got a 2006 Nissan Note 1.6 Automatic and its £235 for 12 months tax

    High compared to mostly everyone I know but I don't pay monthly for the car so don't mind so much

    Planning on keeping the car as long as possible
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