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Shocking price for vehicle tax or is it just me!

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  • uknick
    uknick Posts: 1,770 Forumite
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    ftsos wrote: »
    Thank you. I found what I was looking for. Although its correct, it still seems very expensive.

    Buy a BMW i3 with range extender registered after April 2017 and you pay £140 per year for an engine that will barely get used. Get one registered before April 2017, which has exactly the same engine, and there's no tax to pay. Go figure!! All down to hybrid owners not using their electric engines enough.
  • AdrianC
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    uknick wrote: »
    Buy a BMW i3 with range extender registered after April 2017 and you pay £140 per year for an engine that will barely get used. Get one registered before April 2017, which has exactly the same engine, and there's no tax to pay. Go figure!! All down to hybrid owners not using their electric engines enough.
    No, all down to the average new car's VED having dropped to just thirty quid a year, a level it was last at in 1974...

    There's plenty of similar cliff-faces at the other change-over points in the way VED was calculated - 2001 and 2006. Winners and losers.
  • sevenhills
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    Jackmydad wrote: »
    Running a car is an expensive business.
    Always has been, always will be.


    I think you will find that owning a car is now cheaper than it used to be.
    UK petrol prices in the UK are among the cheapest in Western Europe.
  • jimbo6977
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    The following has always struck me as odd:


    If you buy a small car and fit roofbox, trailer, and fill the boot - you pay little tax.

    But if you buy a larger car, no need to bother with roofboxes and trailers, and it will cope easily with a very full very large boot - you pay loads of tax


    Which is truly better for the environment?
    Which is safer on the road?
  • SHAFT
    SHAFT Posts: 565 Forumite
    sevenhills wrote: »
    I think you will find that owning a car is now cheaper than it used to be.
    UK petrol prices in the UK are among the cheapest in Western Europe.

    Oh really? So fuel has never been below £1.20 a litre here then.
  • Herzlos
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    jimbo6977 wrote: »
    The following has always struck me as odd:


    If you buy a small car and fit roofbox, trailer, and fill the boot - you pay little tax.

    But if you buy a larger car, no need to bother with roofboxes and trailers, and it will cope easily with a very full very large boot - you pay loads of tax


    Which is truly better for the environment?
    Which is safer on the road?


    The small car will still be able to take less load than the big car - smaller roof box, smaller payload, smaller trailer.



    The same applies to a car that does low Vs high mileage - the VED is probably higher for that sports car that goes out on nice Sundays as the diesel daily car doing 20k/year.


    Well maintained cars cost the same as poorly maintained cars with bad tyre pressures, oil leaks and plumes of smoke.



    It needs to be calculated based on typical use (~8k/year mostly empty).
  • Herzlos
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    ftsos wrote: »
    I think we may £40 more because its an automatic. I noticed the same car for a manual paying £160. Its life I suppose.


    In that generation, automatics were usually 1 or 2 bands higher than the equivalent manual, because they weren't as efficient.
  • hareng
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    UK petrol prices in the UK are among the cheapest in Western Europe.


    England - Euros 1.49 per ltr

    Germany Euros 0.6 per ltr

    Lithiania Euos 0.48 per ltr
    Slovakia Euros 0.45 Per Ltr
    Need i go on were 3 times dearer


    http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/


    £200 tax quite cheap that aint even £4 per week, think yourself lucky was payng £315 for an 1800 2003, £300+ 3ltr Diesel, 2ltr diesel £120 now £150 this year cheap not even 3 weeks fuel.
  • You’ve just made this figures up, Germany’s Not 60 cents per liter, for example, it’s €1.439 and your other numbers are way off too.

    I can only assume you’ve never bought fuel on the continent and can’t read a simple table...
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    You’ve just made this figures up, Germany’s Not 60 cents per liter, for example, it’s €1.439 and your other numbers are way off too.
    The numpty's read the LPG column...
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