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Minimum bedroom size - social housing

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  • gettingready
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    edited 7 September 2019 at 10:38AM
    Theartfullodger - many thanks for that.

    Someone (adult - included in rental agreement) does sleep in the room - impossible to sleep in with doors closed as literally no air to breathe and can not leave window open as the part that foes open is VERY big and anyone could get in. Ground floor.

    And yes, rent if course tied to number of bedrooms. I want to challenge that.

    Thanks again-will call l Shelter on Monday and ask them about this particular issue.
    Not overcrowded as such as of course there is the living room but as it is not a 2 bedroom flat it should not be classed as a 2 bedroom. -
  • Theartfuldogger - many thanks for that.

    Someone (adult) does sleep in the room - impossible to sleep in with doors closed as literally no air to breathe and can not leave window open as the part that foes open is VERY big and anyone could get in. Ground floor.

    Thanks agai

    So it is a 2 bed then. What a pointless question.
  • Theartfuldogger - many thanks for that.

    ...... -

    Now I'm definitely not a dogger: Mind you, perhaps I should think about that as a lifestyle option???

    TheArtfulLodger..... ;-
  • gettingready
    gettingready Posts: 11,330 Forumite
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    edited 7 September 2019 at 10:38AM
    Now I'm definitely not a dogger: Mind you, perhaps I should think about that as a lifestyle option???

    TheArtfulLodger..... ;-


    OMG - apologies, small phone screen ...��

    Last thing I want to do is to upset the only person who's reply to my question is relevant and on topic.

    Edited now
  • Ta. Feel free to upset me (Ditto anyone else): I'm no quitter, no leaver, no snowflake.. (others may disagree...)
  • Shelldean
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    Can't help about minimum sizes. But our social housing provider, seems to have changed the descriptions of properties as new tenants move in.

    For example, our agreement says we rent a three bed town house. But new tenants are being told an identical property is classed as four bedrooms.
    The dining room becomes the living room and the original living room is now the fourth bedroom.

    I suspect this is because they can charge a higher rent for the floured than they can for the identical three bedrooms.

    We've obviously not challenged this, as obviously this works in our favour!!

    Sorry can't help more
  • csgohan4
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    OMG - apologies, small phone screen ...��

    Last thing I want to do is to upset the only person who's reply to my question is relevant and on topic.

    Edited now

    OP the HA cannot give you what they don't have

    People are homeless and they would be lucky to get enough points to get a roof over their heads

    Your complaining your place is not big enough.

    really...


    By all means complain to the HA and see where that gets you. But your not entitled to a larger 2 bed no matter what you argue. Unless you have mitigating circumstances such as disability and needing a hoist put in e.t.c
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  • elsien
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    Theartfullodger - many thanks for that.

    Someone (adult - included in rental agreement) does sleep in the room - impossible to sleep in with doors closed as literally no air to breathe and can not leave window open as the part that foes open is VERY big and anyone could get in. Ground floor.

    And yes, rent if course tied to number of bedrooms. I want to challenge that.

    Thanks again-will call l Shelter on Monday and ask them about this particular issue.
    Not overcrowded as such as of course there is the living room but as it is not a 2 bedroom flat it should not be classed as a 2 bedroom. -


    Fit a window restrictor?
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

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  • Fire_Fox
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    The room I question being classified as a bedroom is under 6 square metres AND has very awkward big window with sticking out windowsill, radiator, door in a weird position AND boxed up pipes - all of which further reduces any usable space. In addition, one of the walls is a partition wall between hallway and the "bedroom", thin like a cardboard.

    I want to challenge the HA I am renting from about this flat being classified as a 2 bedroom flat and change it to one bedroom as it really is.

    Room is way too small to be classified as a bedroom but I have no idea how to challenge that with the HA?.

    Someone (adult - included in rental agreement) does sleep in the room - impossible to sleep in with doors closed as literally no air to breathe and can not leave window open as the part that foes open is VERY big and anyone could get in. Ground floor.

    And yes, rent if course tied to number of bedrooms. I want to challenge that.

    Not overcrowded as such as of course there is the living room but as it is not a 2 bedroom flat it should not be classed as a 2 bedroom. -

    Sounds more like the room warrants an overhaul/ modernisation by the Housing Association so that it is safe and habitable. That would positively impact your household, and the limited social housing stock going forwards. :)

    In the future a young family living in overcrowded conditions would be pleased to be offered a safe one-and-a-half bedroom flat. If you manage to get this classed as a one bedroom flat that negatively affects the limited social housing stock. :(
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  • gettingready
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    An awful lot of assumptions flying around on here.
    All I asked is in the opening post.
    There is no hidden story to it
    If a room is classed as a bedroom when it should not due to its size - yes, I will challenge that. It is nothing to do with overcrowding or wanting a bigger place. I am talking about size/layout of ONE room and the legalities of the "2 bedroom" clasification of the flat. That is all.
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