A Question for Tory Supporters

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

We are currently 11 years post Labours mismanagement with no sign of normality returning ...........

Because now we've had 11 years of Tory mismanagement, too.

phillw

SpiderLegs wrote: »

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/09/what-just-happened-stephen-kinnocks-amendment-and-what-does-it-mean

Can you post an article not behind a paywall?

I can assure you however they didn't do it for a laugh. It would be pretty scary if they did, because there was very little time for scrutiny and a saying was bought up in the recent court case that is quite apt

What is the most common law to be passed in parliament? The law of unintended consequences.

I guess you're happier for them to be mindless trolls?

SpiderLegs

phillw wrote: »

Can you post an article not behind a paywall?

I can assure you however they didn't do it for a laugh. It would be pretty scary if they did, because there was very little time for scrutiny and a saying was bought up in the recent court case that is quite apt

What is the most common law to be passed in parliament? The law of unintended consequences.

I guess you're happier for them to be mindless trolls?

It’s not behind a paywall. Maybe the new statesman has blocked you because of your history as a Thatcherite wide boy. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Here is the first sentence to help you ...

The amendment places no legal obligations on Parliament other than to hold a vote

Just google something else if you can. Then rather than pointlessly arguing with just me you can take it up with everybody else in the world who also disagrees with whatever it is you actually think these days.

phillw

SpiderLegs wrote: »

It’s not behind a paywall. Maybe the new statesman has blocked you because of your history as a Thatcherite wide boy. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

When I click your link it literally says:
You've hit the wall

SpiderLegs wrote: »

The amendment places no legal obligations on Parliament other than to hold a vote

It gives the MPs a chance to vote & if they vote for it then it happens. Will that happen, it could do. Does that make you sad? Of course.

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Just google something else if you can. Then rather than pointlessly arguing with just me you can take it up with everybody else in the world who also disagrees with whatever it is you actually think these days.

FWIW it was you that just started contradicting me without providing any credible evidence with an argument that actually makes no sense. All I've asked is for some coherent argument.

ukcarper

phillw wrote: »

When I click your link it literally says:
You've hit the wall

It works OK for me

phillw

ukcarper wrote: »

It works OK for me

Congratulations?

https://www.imgpaste.net/image/rV87m

Just more leave lies. It's kinda surreal trying to debate with people who are so entrenched they won't even believe that if I say an article is behind a pay wall, it's behind a pay wall.

Filo25

Newstatesman only allows you to read 4 articles per month without a subscription.

But I think it only tracks that per browser on each device, so if you try to access with a different browser or device you should be fine

SpiderLegs

phillw wrote: »

Congratulations?

https://www.imgpaste.net/image/rV87m

Just more leave lies. It's kinda surreal trying to debate with people who are so entrenched they won't even believe that if I say an article is behind a pay wall, it's behind a pay wall.

‘Leave lies’ :rotfl:

Labour MP Alex Sobel said there was "skulduggery", tweeting: "The amendment in the name of Stephen Kinnock didn't have a vote as the government didn't provide tellers to count.

"This meant the amendment went through although the No lobby was full. This wasn't an accident you can be assured there's some skulduggery going on."

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/kinnock-amendment-what-happened-1-6254063

Government whips reportedly decided not to send 'vote counters' deliberately, to try and add bureaucratic faff to the Bill, and make it take up more time.

But Labour appear unlikely to fight to remove the amendment, with one source telling the Mirror it had "no legal significance".

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/mps-just-voted-resurrect-theresa-19500218

The new European and daily mirror. Surely the worst examples of Right wing facist nazi Leave scumbag liars.

You really need to get a grip Phil.

Arklight

The Mirror is (ostensibly) left wing.

Tromking

Arklight wrote: »

The Mirror is (ostensibly) left wing.

You’ll refuse to recognise it, but to vast tracts of the population now, its the left that is identified as the home of fascistic behaviours now.
The obsession with identity politics coupled with a thoroughly nasty invective is something you probably recognise in yourself. Or perhaps you don’t.