A Question for Tory Supporters

phillw

babyblade41 wrote: »

I have lots of compassion for those that deserve it and not those who think they are entitled

You only have empathy for people who are like yourself, you don't deserve to sit in judgement over them or immigrants.

Your resentment is what is guiding your right wing attitude. It's not good for you.

babyblade41

phillw wrote: »

You only have empathy for people who are like yourself, you don't deserve to sit in judgement over them or immigrants.

Your resentment is what is guiding your right wing attitude. It's not good for you.

I am not particularly bothered what a lot of people think to be honest, all I know is working my socks off to run a business and employment for others will always be my way .

I have no time for wasters, shirkers and lazy bones

Arklight

babyblade41 wrote: »

I am not particularly bothered what a lot of people think to be honest, all I know is working my socks off to run a business and employment for others will always be my way .

I have no time for wasters, shirkers and lazy bones

You're quite comfortable with stereotypes however. Many poor people work very hard and aren't rewarded for it.

There are just as many chancers, cheats and liars in the upper echelons of society as there are everywhere else. Conservatism appears to consider that they don't count and everything is the fault of a single mother somewhere considering applying for £75 a week in benefits.

triathlon

Arklight wrote: »

Re-read what you wrote. Then reflect on the fact we are having a conversation about food banks. Charities that are set up to literally provide food, to people who don't have any.

As I type this I am looking at an estimate an 18 stone 5 ft 4 female on YouTube who has "barely eaten this week".
I cannot be bothered arguing with you anymore, in the UK it is just about close to 0% of people who have died in the UK in the last half century because they were in poverty, look at the facts and stop acting like a bleeding heart liberal who thinks they alone have a monopoly on compassion.
I work occasionally unpaid for Crisis, what do you do besides point the finger at all the bad people that don't follow your politics? And I can assure you as bad as the situations I have seen there is not one reason why anyone of those mostly tragic cases should ever go without at least one hot meal per day.

Cakeguts

Arklight wrote: »

You're quite comfortable with stereotypes however. Many poor people work very hard and aren't rewarded for it.

There are just as many chancers, cheats and liars in the upper echelons of society as there are everywhere else. Conservatism appears to consider that they don't count and everything is the fault of a single mother somewhere considering applying for £75 a week in benefits.

Most of the people who claim to be single parents actually aren't. The only people who are actually single parents are where one of the couple has died. All the others are not single parents. The fact that the people have made a bad choice by deciding to have a child with the wrong person cannot be blamed on anyone else except themselves.



Personal responsibility is lacking in lots of cases from both the mothers and the fathers.



Pregnancy is a choice it doesn't happen by accident.



I agree that there are bad people in all levels of society. But it seems to me that people who are poor are not expected to have any personal responsibility for any of their actions whereas the well off are.



There is no difference between someone evading tax and someone not paying maintenance for their child. Both of these actions mean other people have to make up the difference. If people took personal responsibility for paying for the children that they choose to have and not having more than they can afford the lives of many children would be much better.

Cakeguts

Arklight wrote: »

You can't "turn up" at a food bank, you have to be referred. You can only visit a few times and if you're referred by the council they will assess your spending first.

You are misinformed on this topic. I suspect you are very far removed from it as well. Both in finances and circumstance.

The thing that really annoys me about food banks is that they supply disposable nappies. Disposable nappies are an enviromental disaster because you cannot recycle them and they contain plastic. There are so many of them now that there is a danger of human waste leaking into the rivers and causing pollution. The reason why we have sewerage treatment plants was because of the public hygiene risk caused by raw untreated sewerage. But the most aggravating thing about all of this is that reusable nappies are cheaper to use and can be used for more than one child. So why are people who have no money for food using disposable nappies in the first place? When they were expecting their first child along with buying everything else a baby needs they could have bought reusable nappies.


This is just an example of the lack of personal responsibility that some people have. Food banks should stop accepting disposable nappies and only accept reusable ones.



https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49594160 Who goes on holiday if they can't afford it and have no savings? A holiday is a luxury not a necessity. Why are people buying things they can't afford?

babyblade41

Cakeguts wrote: »

The thing that really annoys me about food banks is that they supply disposable nappies. Disposable nappies are an enviromental disaster because you cannot recycle them and they contain plastic. There are so many of them now that there is a danger of human waste leaking into the rivers and causing pollution. The reason why we have sewerage treatment plants was because of the public hygiene risk caused by raw untreated sewerage. But the most aggravating thing about all of this is that reusable nappies are cheaper to use and can be used for more than one child. So why are people who have no money for food using disposable nappies in the first place? When they were expecting their first child along with buying everything else a baby needs they could have bought reusable nappies.


This is just an example of the lack of personal responsibility that some people have. Food banks should stop accepting disposable nappies and only accept reusable ones.



https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49594160 Who goes on holiday if they can't afford it and have no savings? A holiday is a luxury not a necessity. Why are people buying things they can't afford?

My kids are 34 and 30..I couldn't afford disposables... nappy bin and a burro boiler.. they were wonderful and would use them now if I was of child bearing age .

I still have the little plastic frilly pants that went over the top... I even used the same dozen I had for the first , on the second :j

babyblade41

Just one other thing on food banks , why so much processed food, plenty of allotments including in the city that have surplus of produce that they can have...

Stoppinghome economics at school was a big mistake

Arklight

triathlon wrote: »

As I type this I am looking at an estimate an 18 stone 5 ft 4 female on YouTube who has "barely eaten this week".
I cannot be bothered arguing with you anymore, in the UK it is just about close to 0% of people who have died in the UK in the last half century because they were in poverty, look at the facts and stop acting like a bleeding heart liberal who thinks they alone have a monopoly on compassion.
I work occasionally unpaid for Crisis, what do you do besides point the finger at all the bad people that don't follow your politics? And I can assure you as bad as the situations I have seen there is not one reason why anyone of those mostly tragic cases should ever go without at least one hot meal per day.

Gosh, lucky them.

I'm sure the homeless people you care so tenderly for love hearing about how they aren't really poor, and even if they are they most likely won't actually die, so should stop complaining.

Arklight

Cakeguts wrote: »

Most of the people who claim to be single parents actually aren't. The only people who are actually single parents are where one of the couple has died. All the others are not single parents. The fact that the people have made a bad choice by deciding to have a child with the wrong person cannot be blamed on anyone else except themselves.



Personal responsibility is lacking in lots of cases from both the mothers and the fathers.



Pregnancy is a choice it doesn't happen by accident.



I agree that there are bad people in all levels of society. But it seems to me that people who are poor are not expected to have any personal responsibility for any of their actions whereas the well off are.



There is no difference between someone evading tax and someone not paying maintenance for their child. Both of these actions mean other people have to make up the difference. If people took personal responsibility for paying for the children that they choose to have and not having more than they can afford the lives of many children would be much better.

Single parents aren't single unless one of them died and pregnancies don't happen by accident?

I think you need to ask your dad to have 'the talk' with you. Or get a leaflet.

This did give me a laugh though. Are you actually serious?