It's time to start digging up those Squirrelled Nuts!!!!

bowlhead99

fred246 said:

Thrugelmir said:

Imagine going to watch Spurs play a game at home. There's a silent assassin in the crowd that's randomly selecting every 10th person as their target. 

There'd still be a good crowd though at the end of the match.

I don't think there would. There would be some highly disruptive panic and most would flee, rather than getting on with their normal productive and consumptive activities like cheering the team and buying their half-time champagne, prawn sandwiches, or whatever fans of London premier league teams consume.

Thrugelmir

fred246 said:

Thrugelmir said:

fred246 said:

shinytop said:

fred246 said:

Sea_Shell said:

DairyQueen said:

cfw1994 said:

Actually the news about Boris going to intensive care shook me up more than I expected.  

Me too. Bad for the country, terrible for his family. I have complete faith that he will recover. though He's a tough cookie.

To add to my anxiety, yesterday I heard the first reports of local Covid deaths. Three husbands, fathers, grandfathers.

Counting our blessings that OH's 30-something niece suffered mildly and has made a complete recovery. She is based in a much worse affected area than our's. We have a garden overlooking fields, local shops that will deliver, and the elderly parents are so far in lockdown that the danged virus will have to crawl twenty metres to reach them.

Our totally screwed retirement plans seem very unimportant and I haven't even squinted at the portfolio for over a week. 

Stay safe all.

We've had deaths at our hospital, but I have no idea whereabouts in the county they were from.   I've not heard anything on the village grapevine about anyone yet, so fingers crossed.   

Touch wood, i've not personally been touched by any of my family, friends or neighbours being ill yet, so i've got everything crossed that it stays that way.  

Quick Google. Population of UK is 66.65 million (2019). UK Coronovarius deaths is 6159. One death per 10822 of the population. Less than 1 in 10,000. Get a piece of paper and put 10822 small circles on it. Colour one in in red. Not many at all so far.

Southend United football club.

Never heard of Southend United. It would be unlucky for them to lose all their supporters at the same time.

Imagine going to watch Spurs play a game at home. There's a silent assassin in the crowd that's randomly selecting every 10th person as their target. 

There'd still be a good crowd though at the end of the match.

The match hasn't ended yet. 

atush

tigerspill said:

atush said:

As for supermarket costs, my Tesco spending is way up- with all the special offers and mutli buys reduced or stopped.  

But that is more than made up for by the fact i havent made it into M&S in 3 weeks as the lines have been too long.  So overall spending same or a little less.  Going to attempt M&S again tomorrow, wish me luck.

Well I have been waiting for the 25% off wine at Tesco.  Was predicted to start today.  No idea if it has or will.
https://moneysavingcentral.co.uk/25-off-wine

If anyone is in Tesco in the coming days/weeks - can you post on here if the offer starts.

I'm going tomorrow.  but i bet they wont have it on.

DairyQueen

shinytop said:

Another quick google.  Average home attendance of Southend United football club this season was 6,192.  Just imagine all of these people in the stadium dead and then think of their families. Sounds quite a lot to me. 

Just happens to be the team closest to the village where I was born and where many members of my extended family still live. It has a relatively high infection rate courtesy of commuting proximity to London. I have fingers and toes crossed that my elderly aunts don't succumb.

I suspect that fred246 would be feeling rather less complacent if it was him or his family in the firing line.

There is no accounting for the 'won't affect me' attitude of some members of society. NB to fred: you and your's are not immune so please drop the complacent attitude.

coyrls

fred246 said:

Sea_Shell said:

DairyQueen said:

cfw1994 said:

Actually the news about Boris going to intensive care shook me up more than I expected.  

Me too. Bad for the country, terrible for his family. I have complete faith that he will recover. though He's a tough cookie.

To add to my anxiety, yesterday I heard the first reports of local Covid deaths. Three husbands, fathers, grandfathers.

Counting our blessings that OH's 30-something niece suffered mildly and has made a complete recovery. She is based in a much worse affected area than our's. We have a garden overlooking fields, local shops that will deliver, and the elderly parents are so far in lockdown that the danged virus will have to crawl twenty metres to reach them.

Our totally screwed retirement plans seem very unimportant and I haven't even squinted at the portfolio for over a week. 

Stay safe all.

We've had deaths at our hospital, but I have no idea whereabouts in the county they were from.   I've not heard anything on the village grapevine about anyone yet, so fingers crossed.   

Touch wood, i've not personally been touched by any of my family, friends or neighbours being ill yet, so i've got everything crossed that it stays that way.  

Quick Google. Population of UK is 66.65 million (2019). UK Coronovarius deaths is 6159. One death per 10822 of the population. Less than 1 in 10,000. Get a piece of paper and put 10822 small circles on it. Colour one in in red. Not many at all so far.

Unfortunately your colouring in won't end there, unless you're no longer around to do the colouring.

fred246

Ooh I do seem to have upset some people talking statistics. In a normal year 7 Wembley Stadiums full will die. So the current coronavirus deaths represent approx 1% of the normal annual deaths. I am sure there will be plenty more deaths. I could be one of them. If not I'll go some other time. Death is one of the few certainties in life.

westv

Why focus on the deaths sad as they are? The important part is how many need hospital care. The whole point of the lockdown is ensure that number stays as low as possible to try and prevent services being overwhelmed.

Sea_Shell

westv said:

Why focus on the deaths sad as they are? The important part is how many need hospital care. The whole point of the lockdown is ensure that number stays as low as possible to try and prevent services being overwhelmed.

Yes, as far as I can see, the measures are just to stop the NHS being overwhelmed with cases needing hospitalisation, all at the same time.   NOT to stop us all catching it eventually.   This is actually the scary part for me.   When we DO catch it (if it ends up with no vaccine and is "out there" just like a common cold), how bad will we be for us.   Will either of us end up needing hospital treatment, and the thought of long term lasting health effects scares me the most.

On the one hand I know that we are "relatively" young(ish), fit and healthy, not overweight, not smokers, not heavy drinkers (despite what I might post here - we don't sit drinking wine/prosecco ALL the time!!!) and don't live in a badly polluted area.    But on the other hand I know that ANYONE can have a bad immune response and end up in serious trouble, or worse.

It may well be, in time, that this disease is just something we have to live with, and come to terms with it's effects, the same as many other diseases that threaten us and our families all the time.   Cures and vaccines would be fantastic, but i don't think we should pin all our hopes on that outcome, personally.

Malthusian

MallyGirl said:

We have quite a few people poorly on our street of 140 houses, including 2 pensioners who are certain they have COVID. Their son has been living with them as their carer but he was taken to hospital by ambulance Monday night with breathing difficulties. Paramedic checked the couple over while there are said they were better off at home while they could manage. Their son is now home as hospital couldn't see any COVID indicators on his x-ray - he has steroids, antibiotics and a blue inhaler to address his symptoms so fingers crossed. All quite scary.

Among the many people killed by the lockdown will be those who died because instead of thinking "This is a really crappy cold, I'll hide under the covers and wait for it to go away" like those who caught Covid in December and January, they're thinking "Oh s---, I've got covid, I'm going to die". Any doctor will tell you about the importance of psychology in treatment, it's why placebos are so effective. It's not New Age "you can cure diseases with the power of your mind"; you can't cure viruses with a positive outlook but a negative one will help do its job.

PennyForThem_2

Have any of you made a living will or had a discussion with your loved ones how you want to be treated should you catch Corvid-19 and be taken into ICU?  Do so.  That action will also help the really overworked, exhausted ITCU NHS staff.