Out of interest

ToxicWomble

Reading through this board, I caught myself wondering how many of these PCNs would be enforceable if the companies involved actually played by the rules/law/legislation etc

If it was a reasonable percentage then why don’t they ?

Only reason I can think of is that enough people just pay up that the costs of playing a “fair game” isn’t yet financially viable to them.

The_Deep

In most cases they do, the fault lies in "the rules" which they exploit.

Umkomaas

ToxicWomble wrote: »

Only reason I can think of is that enough people just pay up that the costs of playing a “fair game” isn’t yet financially viable to them.

Eureka, wish I'd thought of that.

Ralph-y

hi,



" rules/law/legislation etc"


what would they be ?



we may get some in the coming months , bur as of now there are none



Ralph:cool:

ToxicWomble

Ok, so let’s imagine everyone stopped exploiting any rules/regulations etc once there are some in place (if not already)

How then would none payers/over stayers etc etc be able to avoid paying ?

The answer I suspect is that they won’t hence my question

So how does the current situation benefit the system - it doesn’t- everyone plays the loophole game and ends up costing everyone vast amounts of time and money.

There’s only o e side making money out of this and it is t the car owners.

How about car owners took more care and responsibllity for their own actions and avoid getting a “speculative invoice” in the first place.

waamo

ToxicWomble wrote: »

How about car owners took more care and responsibllity for their own actions and avoid getting a “speculative invoice” in the first place.

One of the big problems is that parking companies set out to entrap motorists. It isn't about parking management it's about making money.

Every day there are tickets on here that shouldn't be given. A prime example is double dipping. You go to a shop, return later and the camera decides its one long visit. You get charged for staying 6 hours or whatever.

It happens with alarming regulatory despite ppcs supposedly checking to make sure it doesn't.

That's just one example. We have also seen doctored timestamps and doctored photos on here.

You can play by the rules and still get a ticket. Despite this most people just pay up. You can see why ppcs do it.

nosferatu1001

HOw do car owners "make money" in a free car park? Or is this just a troll post from a new user with a sparse posting history?

fisherjim

ToxicWomble wrote: »

There’s only o e side making money out of this and it is t the car owners.

How about car owners took more care and responsibllity for their own actions and avoid getting a “speculative invoice” in the first place.

You really don't get this do you?

Redx

Smart recently sent my brother a ticket for anpr overstay or whatever in the kinnoull st car park, Perth, Scotland . He has never been there and especially not in his newish Toyota

The 2 pictures clearly showed the number plate of the vehicle which was a Volkswagen. The pictures also showed an anpr overlay of the VRM details and they matched the number plates so all ok so far

However, the VRM on the right of the ntk was my brothers plate with one letter being different so the idiot that applied due diligence at smart put the wrong VRM into his kadoe terminal and unlawfully accessed my brothers details and he was sent the ntk instead of the real keeper of the actual plate

It has now been cancelled by smart after his snotty appeal. Lol

So all the anpr details were correct, but human error and no due diligence checks caused my brother some angst due to an incorrect and speculative invoice

No wonder Pete Wishart hates smart parking

The_Deep

Did you brother not go after them for a data breach? I would.

This sort of service is not exclusive to PPCs. One of my flats is vacant prior to being sold. I am in dispute with the council and the electricity company over final bills.

The council in fact issued me with a summons,(now cancelled), and are now Did dealing with a very aggrieved taxpayer demanding compensation.

Redx

Yes I have given him good advice about this breach and yes I would take it further myself too. But I am not my brothers keeper so it's now up to him as I cannot do it for him. Thanks for asking