CCJ/Court/Appeal/Whatever

JayEdgerHoover

They don't make any sense nor do they help - I tried the tricks before about signage, data protection, etc and I still got served with a court notice (this was a different case) They are all for cases where you have parked innocently (eg, a wheel over the line or something) not where you have knowingly parked on private land because you couldn't find a space elsewhere

fisherjim

"I usually park on private land if there are no P&D spaces available. There is a block of flats nearby to the station I use (and I also park at the station and never pay because it costs enough to get into London as it is!)"



Well you won't get much sympathy on here then that's not what fighting scams on here is all about, as you are admitting you are no better!


Bye!

JayEdgerHoover

Okay know-all

JayEdgerHoover

If it's a scam it's a scam, it makes no difference. They don't know any better

The_Deep

… They are all cases where you have parked innocently ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat

James1968

Op, you paid, therefore the ccj was satisfied, so no need to have wasted the Court's time.

Now, go and research whether or not the ppc has planning permission for their signage as required under s.2 of the Town and Country Planning (Advertising) Act 2007. Also find out whether the ppc owns/leases the land, or is just managing it.

If they don't have pp and/or they are just managing the parking on behalf of the landowner , report them the Council and send the ppc a bill for the parking charge plus Court costs. Make sure this is in the form of a LBA and inform them any Court action will be taken jointly against both them and the landowner

The basis of English Contract Law is that a 3rd party (in this case, the ppc) cannot enable a contract between the 1st party (landowner) and the 2nd party (land user). They can only act as negotiators.

At least that's my understanding based on my A level in English Contract Law and my cousin's 30 years as a solicitor.

JayEdgerHoover

James1968 wrote: »

Op, you paid, therefore the ccj was satisfied, so no need to have wasted the Court's time.

Now, go and research whether or not the ppc has planning permission for their signage as required under s.2 of the Town and Country Planning (Advertising) Act 2007. Also find out whether the ppc owns/leases the land, or is just managing it.

If they don't have pp and/or they are just managing the parking on behalf of the landowner , report them the Council and send the ppc a bill for the parking charge plus Court costs. Make sure this is in the form of a LBA and inform them any Court action will be taken jointly against both them and the landowner

The basis of English Contract Law is that a 3rd party (in this case, the ppc) cannot enable a contract between the 1st party (landowner) and the 2nd party (land user). They can only act as negotiators.

At least that's my understanding based on my A level in English Contract Law and my cousin's 30 years as a solicitor.

Take a bow mate. Finally some sound advice

waamo

Your post makes no sense whatsoever. You say you've paid it, then say it's set aside then go on to say it's still on your record.

You can only have one of those options. You've either paid it or set it aside. If it's set aside then it's no longer on your record. If it's paid then it's over with.

What exactly happened. I love a good story.

fisherjim

JayEdgerHoover wrote: »

Take a bow mate. Finally some sound advice

But wrong, as you have already found out!


You openly admit that you just want to abuse private property and the law as you wish.


You start multiple threads about which proves you a muppet:


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5726988/no-right-turn-sign-and-camera


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5638582/court-appearence


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5628941/78-page-document-from-parking-eye


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5628945/private-parking-idea


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5606049/looks-like-im-going-to-court


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5585598/gladstones-have-sent-me-this-what-does-it-mean


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5575441/received-car-parking-ticket-from-ukpc-in-own-gym-car-park





Then come on here spouting utter rubbish and expect the regulars to help you out of trouble.


You are the very reason why PPC's exist and flourish to scam the more innocent victims that just make a mistake, unlike you that wants everything their own way.

KeithP

JayEdgerHoover wrote: »

Finally some sound advice.

I'm not too sure about that.

I take issue with this bit:

The basis of English Contract Law is that a 3rd party (in this case, the ppc) cannot enable a contract between the 1st party (landowner) and the 2nd party (land user). They can only act as negotiators.

Whilst that may or may not be true, the '3rd party' is not trying to create a contract between the landowner and the driver.

They, the PPC, assert that they have the right to form a contract between themselves and the driver.


If James1968's point was correct, the whole business model of the private parking companies would've collapsed years ago.