How to enforce parking restrictions without being an a%&$ ?

The_Deep

Perhaps a picture of a calthrop tucked under the wiper might do the trick.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltrop

Computersaysno

hartebeestfootprint wrote: »

All I want is as described in the original post - our bays free to access by our staff. Definitely not to create a PPC or a side business in suing for trespass.

What is your suggestion that legally inconveniences people who park without authorisation and is effective and doesn't take a lot of time and effort?

Go to the start of this very thread and try reading it all again...lots of excellent suggestions in there.


Unless you're just here to argue or show how clever you are?

hartebeestfootprint

Go to the start of this very thread and try reading it all again...lots of excellent suggestions in there.
Unless you're just here to argue or show how clever you are?

No, I'm just frustrated about parking! I wasn't refering to the whole thread, which has some very useful suggestions and warnings - but my summary from that is that there's no easy solution and it's extremely difficult to come up with a legal penalty for people who deliberately park on private land without authorisation - to which The Deep replied "No it's not....really it's not" Unfortunately his solution seems to be some sort of implied threat of criminal damage against the vehicle in question, which I'm pretty sure is not advisable.
I appreciate that most people on this forum are here to advise people who've been wronged by unfair parking penalties, and I really do appreciate the level of help and suggestions made even though I'm from the "parking lot owner" side of the issue, but the one thing that's become clear is that we need a better legal framework for private landowners to deal with people who park on their land without authorisation. The level of bad behaviour by PPCs that enforce questionable contracts or trespass charges, and the lack of any legal alternative with teeth (apart from expensive and annoying physical barriers) shows that the mechanisms available are not fit for purpose.

getmore4less

Aldi have marker paint on offer at the moment.

I think you could go with the double parking a few times to see how many that scares off after a good talking to when they ask to get let out.

Bollards and a chain could be used intermittently when it won't inconvenience you.

As they are your spaces when you know you won't use them all park so no one can get in.

waamo

Cones will put the vast majority of people off.

hartebeestfootprint

Cones will put the vast majority of people off.

Seeing as the area is used for teenagers to drink, smoke and get up to general mischief late at night (I have had to pick up soiled nappies, condoms and assorted debris occasionally), I'd not expect to see any cones left the next morning! I should probably install high-up CCTV just for the entertainment value

getmore4less

Just walked into town by a different route today past a few busines a church and care home all within walking of the local amenities and near council parking sites.

Plenty of we will clamp or block you in signs no PPC.

What about some cones with alarms in them.

If you are planning self ticketing what about a camera and rush out when it detects a dodgy car.

hartebeestfootprint

Plenty of we will clamp or block you in signs no PPC.

All illegal though, under most circumstances.

If you are planning self ticketing what about a camera and rush out when it detects a dodgy car.

I'm not there most of the time so not very practical. Even if I were, 5 minutes concentrating on work and someone's park and walked off, then they are almost immune from consequences.

fisherjim

I think the majority of posters on here sympathize with your situation, but the thought of a reasonable, honest businessman getting into bed with known scammers and liars leaves a nasty taste behind.

We live in hope that the new bill passed by parliament will sort out the mess that is now unregulated, but don't hold out much hope at the moment as they messed it up before with the POFA.

nigelbb

hartebeestfootprint wrote: »

Plenty of we will clamp or block you in signs no PPC.

All illegal though, under most circumstances.

The signs are not illegal any more than is a "Trespassers will be shot" sign.

As I noted in my earlier response the only easy answer is some form of barrier. Any attempt at frightening off offenders or using the law is less certain to be effective.

Roping off the parking area with metal posts & a chain would be a simple solution. If you really want to use a padlock don't use a key just give members of staff the combination. You probably won't even need to padlock the chain to the posts though as you only need to make enough difficulty to provide deterrence just so the offenders go and park somewhere nearby that is a bit easier.