How to enforce parking restrictions without being an a%&$ ?

hartebeestfootprint

So are your neighbours blighted by the same parking problems?

Not while they are there - after they close for the night they have 1-2 cars parked there presumably without authorisation but when they are closed they don't care and don't enforce (FlashPark is 100% self-ticketing)

It may well be that your lack of signage might appear an 'open invitation' to anyone prepared to fly park.

Ok so you recommendation is to get a PPC in and put up loads of signs?

Umkomaas

hartebeestfootprint wrote: »

Not while they are there - after they close for the night they have 1-2 cars parked there presumably without authorisation but when they are closed they don't care and don't enforce (FlashPark is 100% self-ticketing)

Ok so you recommendation is to get a PPC in and put up loads of signs?

You seem a bit keen to put words into my mouth. I don't spend half my life helping people fight parking charges to recommend anyone jump into bed with any PPC.

You don't need a PPC to put up signs for you.

hartebeestfootprint

You don't need a PPC to put up signs for you.

What sort of signs do you suggest? Threatening prosecution for trespass? Or just something that looks like a PPC sign without any enforcement behind it?

beamerguy

hartebeestfootprint wrote: »

Ok so you recommendation is to get a PPC in and put up loads of signs?

Nobody has said that to you ..... but after 143 posts on this thread you have been given many options.
You are a business man and now, it's up to you to make the right decision for your business, be they right or wrong

bergkamp

hartebeestfootprint wrote: »

Not really relevant to a our staff carpark where all staff are allowed to park 24x7 and the photos are taken and submitted by the staff themselves.




This is the one that is up at the entrance to our carpark (we share a carpark entrance with the shop next door that uses FlashPark, though the lots are separate):

http://notomob.co.uk/discussions/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4467.0;attach=5076;image
The sign seems pretty clear and straightforward. You wouldn't park under that sign and then be too surprised if you got a penalty notice in the mail unless you were in the "permitted" population, right? FlashPark requires a sign at each entrance and one sign per 3 bays, so the next door lot is plastered with them.

Very clear sign.
How do you become an authorised vehicle?
How do you incorrectly park?
I'd be very surprised to get a Penalty Notice as the sign doesn't say that .

waamo

That's also a forbidding sign which can bring up a world of pain if they try and sue someone clued up.

That is unless their contract gives them landowner right.

hartebeestfootprint

How do you become an authorised vehicle?
How do you incorrectly park?
I'd be very surprised to get a Penalty Notice as the sign doesn't say that .

Really?
It says "permit holders only", if you don't have a permit, then you know that you are not authorised to park there. You don't need to know how to get a permit to know not to park, surely? In our case, you get a permit by getting a job in the office, do I need to put that on the sign?


Should the sign also explain that there are white lines painted on the surface, and you park correctly if your wheels are all within a set of lines, etc? Maybe I need a bigger sign to list out all the possible ways of parking correctly and incorrectly!



Your questions seem to be those that you would ask if you knew you were in the wrong, but were looking for a technicality to wiggle out of the consequences. Do you genuinely look at that sign and think "perfect, the owner has provided me with free parking!"? Or do you say to yourself "I can see this is a private lot, and the owner is trying to enforce perfectly reasonable parking restrictions, but I think I can get away with it because I spotted an error on the sign"?

That's also a forbidding sign which can bring up a world of pain if they try and sue someone clued up.
That is unless their contract gives them landowner right.

That's a good point. What is should say is something along the lines that if you do not have a permit, then you agree to pay the listed parking charge of £85 per day or part thereof. Saying parking is essentially forbidden unless you are authorised probably means only a trespass could be prosecuted.

Computersaysno

Dear OP ...you've been given lots of advice and options...like any internet forum its now down to you to shift through them and separate the wheat from the chaff.


It's your business so it depends on how you want to go about it...be super-aggressive or be super-meek...it's your choice.


Personally I believe that you will have a hardcore of to55ers that will pretty much ignore whatever you do...until it DIRECTLY [and significantly] impacts upon them.


You don't need to sort everyone out because word soon spreads...


I'd personally take very very very direct action...but that's just me.

Half_way

If you are looking at a PPC they are a few other things that you should be aware of:
The principal, i.e. whoever contacted the parking company will be jointly and severally liable for the actions of its agents so if the PPC gets upto any mischief such as harassment/GDPR breaches etc it could fall into the lap of whoever took on the ppc

Signs will require planning permission, and advertising consent.
likewise with any other equipment/signage.

The_Deep

What half way says, plus it could end up on Rogue Traders.