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  • davetrousers
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    A.Jones wrote: »
    Don't fill it up. Efficiency Improvement: Up to 1%
    Fuel is heavy, so by filling the car up you're adding quite a weight.

    I have just looked at the figures (approximate) 100 litres of petrol weigh about 73.7kg (apparently), so 50 litres is about 37 kg (forget about decimal places) so half a tank would be saving you about 18 - 19 kg in weight. In a car that weighs 1500 kg is it going to make much of a difference. You decide.

    To the post above^^^ Lose the oversized font!
    .....

  • shinydoc
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    My Skoda Fabia definitely has an overflow. There is a small black plastic lever in the inlet which if you push you can hear air passing through. If you fill up the tank as normal then push this lever for a few seconds then keep pumping you can get about 10 more litres in. I don't do this very often unless I am going on a long journey and want the extra.

    Thanks - I'll check that on the wife's Fabia.

    Interesting Salutation Dave and your ;) absolutely right! Also, if you find a clever way of combining Clubcard vouchers from several different people for the same deal let us know!

    Sorry for digressing off the main thread point everyone.
  • shinydoc
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    I have just looked at the figures (approximate) 100 litres of petrol weigh about 73.7kg (apparently), so 50 litres is about 37 kg (forget about decimal places) so half a tank would be saving you about 18 - 19 kg in weight. In a car that weighs 1500 kg is it going to make much of a difference. You decide.

    To the post above^^^ Lose the oversized font!

    I think we are on the same wavelength here!
  • shinydoc
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    :money:



    [FONT=BBADHO+Arial][FONT=BBADHO+Arial]Tips on Filling your Vehicles... [/FONT][/FONT]

    This is a Message received from a friend:
    I don't know what you guys are paying for petrol... but here in Durban, we are also paying higher, up to 47.35 per litre. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every litre.
    Here at the Marian Hill Pipeline, where I work in Durban, we deliver about 4 million litres in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.
    One day is diesel; the next day is jet fuel, and petrol, LRP and Unleaded. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 litres.
    ONLY BUY OR FILL UP YOUR CAR OR BIKKIE IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN THE GROUND TEMPERATURE IS STILL COLD. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground, the denser the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.... your litre is not exactly a litre.
    In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products play an important role. A 1degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
    WHEN YOU'RE FILLING UP, DO NOT SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER OF THE NOZZLE TO A FAST MODE. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created, while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
    ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TIPS IS TO FILL UP WHEN YOUR TANK IS HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank, the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.
    Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated, so that every litre is actually the exact amount.
    ANOTHER REMINDER, IF THERE IS A FUEL TRUCK PUMPING INTO THE STORAGE TANKS, WHEN YOU STOP TO BUY, DO NOT FILL UP - most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.
    Hope, this will help you get the maximum value for your money.
    DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS! LET'S SHARE INFORMATION AND BENEFIT ALL, FOR THE BETTER OF MANKIND.

    Interesting - I think the advice on the time to fill up needs to be clarified on Martin's main page as he says evening, but the ground will be hotter still then??
  • The diesel here in Norfolk is now £130.9 well it was yesterday! As we have an old deisel vehicle we are now putting half & half cooking oil and have to say it is running much cleaner with no loss of performance, not that the it had performance before but thought I'd add that anyway. We know that we can do this legally up to 2,500 litres and as we're not likely to use that much we know we are within the law. Our vehicle is an old Toyota import and it does seem to by ok so far. I've also found cheap is not always best as Tesco deisel does not last as well as Esso plus with the Tesco stuff it burns dirtier, Morrisons points system is based on litres going in your vehicle so the more you have to pay for it the less points you get and their fuel is also like Tesco's.

    WE have to use our car as there is no bus service and as I am the carer for my mother it is now getting ridculous when isn't the thick skulled Gorden Brown doing something to help us!!!
  • shinydoc
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    Daisymay wrote: »
    The diesel here in Norfolk is now £130.9 well it was yesterday! As we have an old deisel vehicle we are now putting half & half cooking oil and have to say it is running much cleaner with no loss of performance, not that the it had performance before but thought I'd add that anyway. We know that we can do this legally up to 2,500 litres and as we're not likely to use that much we know we are within the law. Our vehicle is an old Toyota import and it does seem to by ok so far. I've also found cheap is not always best as Tesco deisel does not last as well as Esso plus with the Tesco stuff it burns dirtier, Morrisons points system is based on litres going in your vehicle so the more you have to pay for it the less points you get and their fuel is also like Tesco's.

    WE have to use our car as there is no bus service and as I am the carer for my mother it is now getting ridculous when isn't the thick skulled Gorden Brown doing something to help us!!!

    Thanks Daisy - Does anyone know if there have been any objective studies on the comparison of Supermarket fuel against 'premium' fuel? The view seems to be that it may cost a penny more, but you get better mpg?
  • bryanb
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    Daisy, Are you aware that it is illegal to use any substitute road fuel without paying the tax? I have read about the 2500 litres etc. But it is essential to register and pay the tax. Forgive me if you are paying but you give the impression that you're just tipping in cooking oil. HMRC website is useful, but you have to search to find the correct info.
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
  • The cheapest diesel in Coventry is currently 125.9 (or was!). The consumption point is interesting as I've found that I get better economy with the likes of Asda (average 57 mpg) than I get with Shell (45 mpg).

    I always check petrolprices.com but the problem I'm finding now is that the prices are changing so quickly you can find that the price has gone up by the time you get to the garage! and I am not filling up at Tesco because their clubcard points do not add up to the extra 2 or 3p a litre extra they charge.

    One thing I noticed last fill up was that if I use the "fast pay" option at the pump, I can only have a maximum spend of £70 which filling up a car at 125.9 with a 58 litre tank is getting rather close to the limit. Do they allow you to fill it twice? :rolleyes:
    In spite of the cost of living, it’s still popular :eek:
  • shinydoc
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    The cheapest diesel in Coventry is currently 125.9 (or was!). The consumption point is interesting as I've found that I get better economy with the likes of Asda (average 57 mpg) than I get with Shell (45 mpg).

    I always check petrolprices.com but the problem I'm finding now is that the prices are changing so quickly you can find that the price has gone up by the time you get to the garage! and I am not filling up at Tesco because their clubcard points do not add up to the extra 2 or 3p a litre extra they charge.

    One thing I noticed last fill up was that if I use the "fast pay" option at the pump, I can only have a maximum spend of £70 which filling up a car at 125.9 with a 58 litre tank is getting rather close to the limit. Do they allow you to fill it twice? :rolleyes:

    That's a huge difference between Asda and Shell! And I completely agree with your comments
  • I always use petrolprices.com and found that almost invariably Morrisons is 1p a Litre cheaper than anywhere else around and if you get their loyaly card and get it scanned when you buy fuel it gets you another 1.5p off a litre when it's used to buy from the store.
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