If there isn't a hard-border what would stop Eastern European immigrants entering UK via Ireland??

martinthebandit

phillw wrote: »

The major difference post brexit is the little englanders can delight when people from the EU are hunted in dawn raids and have their lives torn apart.

Whether there will be any money to fund those raids is another matter.

Doesn't it hurt? Carrying that huge chip on your shoulder?

J_Nostin

mayonnaise wrote: »

Home Secretary made it into a big issue because his party wants to keep the kippers and little englanders on-board.
A couple of dozen migrants in a dinghy is not a big issue.
Non-EU migration was 240k net in 2018. That's 600-700 a day. But I've been told on here they're all brain surgeons and rocket scientists, so it's all good.

Links for that please? Or are you yet another poster just as described in the post above?

martinthebandit wrote: »

Doesn't it hurt? Carrying that huge chip on your shoulder?

mayonnaise

J_Nostin wrote: »

Links for that please? Or are you yet another poster just as described in the post above?

Don't worry about it. Was discussed way before you joined.
As you're obviously a new poster.

kabayiri

We get so many migrant workers from the EU and non-EU.

I'm surprised that our NHS isn't twice the size and our rockets not mid-flight to Mars by now.

J_Nostin

mayonnaise wrote: »

Don't worry about it. Was discussed way before you joined.
As you're obviously a new poster.

What you really mean of course is that you have no evidence to back up your absurd statement, so you will try to shift the blame and try to discredit a new poster.

C'mon, man up and confess you are wrong. Nobody said that in 2018 all non-EU immigrants are "all brain surgeons and rocket scientists" did they!
New here I might be. Daft I'm not. If remainers can stop treating people as if they are daft like that they might get somewhere.

J_Nostin

kabayiri wrote: »

We get so many migrant workers from the EU and non-EU.

I'm surprised that our NHS isn't twice the size and our rockets not mid-flight to Mars by now.

I reckon there's enough migrant car wash attendants and manicurists to reach the moon if they stood on each others shoulders, and they are all contributing no end to the UK economy supposedly.

Newnoel

Give Ireland back to the Irish. We never should have occupied Ireland in the first place.

If it wasn't for the bigots in the DUP holding the government to ransom, we would likely be considering Irish unification by now, thereby obviating the need for any land border with the EU

BobQ

Autumn86 wrote: »

Like millions of people I voted for brexit because I am fedup with mass immigration from Eastern Europe.
(Less than 45% of the population of London is English)

Everyone in political spheres is getting their knickers in a twist about the idea of a hard border between Britain & Europe being a bad idea somehow,
But I personally don't quite understand how on earth immigration can be controlled unless there is a hard border??

As what would stop Polish/Bulgarian/or any other nationality of European immigrants simply just flying from their own country to Ireland (EU), then travelling up into Northern-ireland (UK), and then once in Northern Ireland just travelling over the sea into other parts of the UK such as England??

You are right we need a hard border to prevent this happening, also a double wall along the border at least 10m high, electrified on both sides with wild dogs roaming between them, maybe some machine gun posts every 50m.

That is the consequence of her stupid policy.

dunstonh

Give Ireland back to the Irish. We never should have occupied Ireland in the first place.

Northern Ireland chose to remain part of the UK.

If it wasn't for the bigots in the DUP holding the government to ransom, we would likely be considering Irish unification by now, thereby obviating the need for any land border with the EU

Ireland cannot afford reunification.

Putting aside that N Ireland has the lowest revenue take of the UK but the highest spending rate, there is the issue of apportioning debt. (it has a deficit to the UK of around 27% - 10.8bn Euros paid from the rUK. Read England as only England is a net contributor).

Ireland's public sector pension liability alone is 98bn Euros. If you apportioned UK public sector pension liability to N Ireland on the basis of public sector employment, it would more than double the liabilities for Ireland. If done on a per capita basis, it would still add 64bn euros.

There are claims that a united Ireland would have a bigger negative effect on N Ireland than Brexit. And N Ireland is the country most likely to take the biggest hit from Brexit.

Reunification is not an easy step to take.

phillw

martinthebandit wrote: »

Doesn't it hurt? Carrying that huge chip on your shoulder?

I don't have a chip on my shoulder, I voted to remain.

You should look closer to home.

dunstonh wrote: »

Northern Ireland chose to remain part of the UK.

Northern Ireland was created to solve the problem of the invasion. It just happened that those counties had a higher proportion of UK sympathisers.

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

If we get a big enough slump, British people will be sneaking across the Irish border into the EU. Immigrants will be the least of your worries.

It doesn't cause the same problem going the other way. We can get into Ireland, but no matter whether you get a boat or plane from there you'll end up at a non EU citizen lane at passport control.

If you have your own plane or boat then you have slightly more options, but then you may as well start from where you live and avoid ireland entirely.