Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Herzlos

ryan121 wrote: »

Is anyone putting off buying because of brexit? The real brexit is in december and possibly with no trade deal which could cause a recession.

I'm considering buying soon but it seems a bit mad when there could be quite a serious reduction in house prices just around the corner.

I think it may be the opposite; with lower prices becomes tighter affordability and less houses on the market, so it's probably best to have bought before we leave.

Herzlos

Fran_Klee wrote: »

Is the reality an awkward out-of-work type living in a room at his parents, because that's the impression I get?
Who am I and "where am I from? It doesn't matter" - even if you are trying to deliberately mislead, that's the problem with an open forum.

Cool, so now we've concluded that it doesn't matter where I'm from, because that would be xenophobic, we can get back to discussing the issue rather than whether or not I'm allowed to have a say?

Good. How do we go about making a success of Brexit?

adindas

Herzlos wrote: »

Good. How do we go about making a success of Brexit?

Extremely simple, stop remoaning. Get real and accept the fact that the UK is leaving the EU, accept the fact that Conservatives has won the GE.

It is the remoaners like you that have let the UK to be humiliated in the first round of negotiation with the EU. They have tied up the UK negotiators hands so the UK cannot negotiate effectively with the EU.

Just to remind you what damages the remoaners have been causing. These are just few examples.

- They wanted the UK to hand over money without knowing what the UK will get in return. Keep in mind Divorce settlement is not in the treaty.
- They wanted to handover the fishing right of the UK water without knowing what the UK will get in return
- They wanted to give unilateral right to the EU citizen without knowing what the UK will get in return
- They wanted to remove the threat of no-deal.
- They keep fighting to reverse Brexit. Every government movement they try to block it. How many Court challenges, Voting in the parliaments. They did eveything to make sure that all of the power that could be used to negotiate to be removed.

It is the same thing with fight. During the fight someone you know tie your hands during the fight while your opponent keep punching your face and head. If this thing did happen to you could you win the fight ??? Would you ever forgive the person someone you know who tied your hands ??

It does not need a shrewd negotiator to see that if you agree all of these things, what do you think the leverage the UK will have in the negotiation table ???

Keep in mind you took part in this decision making to leave the EU, you took part in the GE to decide which party rules the country.

You just need to see how Switzerland, Canada, although small, less influential countries than the UK they could negotiate better with the EU because the people are united.

After all of this mess up have been sorted hopefully there is a movement to take all of these people to be accountable. There should be a public enquiry seeking possibility of treason charge for these people.

adindas

British economy will grow faster than eurozone rivals, says IMF

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/british-economy-will-grow-faster-than-eurozone-rivals-says-imf-k2h3vbdjm

Compare it to when Christine Legards was the chief.

The cat is now out of the bag. Scaremonger BS is not working. If you see on this thread a lot, even the people who voted remain are not afraid od no-deal brexit.

People are not so gullible ....

Tromking

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7927123/ALEXANDER-VON-SCHOENBURG-says-Germany-fears-Britain-face-reality-Brexit.html

Interesting take from a German that seems to run contrary to the oft repeated Remain narrative about the future prospects of the EU in comparison to Brexit U.K.

goral

adindas wrote: »

You just need to see how Switzerland, Canada, although small, less influential countries than the UK they could negotiate better with the EU because the people are united.

Have you ever been to Switzerland
I do not think so.
Switzerland is not a member of the EU, but it is a member of Schengen, moreover, Switzerland has the following:

1. Free movement of people
2. Air traffic
3. Road traffic
4. Agriculture
5. Technical trade barriers
6. Public procurement
7. Science

And:

8. Security and asylum and Schengen membership
9. Cooperation in fraud pursuits
10. Final stipulations in open questions about agriculture, environment, media, education, care of the elderly, statistics and services.

Switzerland also pays membership fees.
And Switzerland is still a neutral and independent country.
since Switzerland is not a member of the EU, there is no voting right in the EU Parliament. And it does not affect decisions.
Still, Switzerland has accepted these points because it pays off.
Switzerland is not an EU member, but you can open a business there and live in the same housing as Swiss citizens.
These are the real opportunity you have in the EU that you will not have after Brexit!
Switzerland, about a year ago, said trade with the UK after Brexit is not her priority. Too many problems with tariffs, bureaucracy. It won't pay off for them.

adindas

Tromking wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7927123/ALEXANDER-VON-SCHOENBURG-says-Germany-fears-Britain-face-reality-Brexit.html

Interesting take from a German that seems to run contrary to the oft repeated Remain narrative about the future prospects of the EU in comparison to Brexit U.K.

Glad to see to see that all of the widespread scaremonger nonsense has started to be uncovered layer by layer ...

Just waut after a decade when people have seen the UK raises from the gloomy prediction, that will be the end of the EU.

Fran_Klee

gfplux wrote: »

Please point out my name calling, please.

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gfplux wrote: »

........ surely you quitters ...............

Fran_Klee

Tromking wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7927123/ALEXANDER-VON-SCHOENBURG-says-Germany-fears-Britain-face-reality-Brexit.html

Interesting take from a German that seems to run contrary to the oft repeated Remain narrative about the future prospects of the EU in comparison to Brexit U.K.

You can't post that - it's from the Daily Mail and you're not a remainer!

This is a sensible "take" from the Yorkshire Post:

If the EU is to have a future, it is not as a “United States of Europe” but as a friendly association of free, independent countries co-operating on trade, security and other matters, but in terms of tax and spending, domestic and foreign policy, subject to the democractic will of their own citizens.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opinion/columnists/eu-will-only-survive-brexit-if-it-now-reforms-bill-carmichael-1-10180334

adindas

[FONT=&quot]Who care what you think. But to disappoint you, you got it wrong again[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. It is the same when you said the EU is an economic Bloc. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]What you are talking about Switzerland is about the past relationship. Switzerland is negotiating its new relationship with the EU.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Did you notice how the Swiss Parliament, the swiss people are supporting the Government in the Negotiation. Just Look how the Swiss newspaper react to the EU bullies. Just compare it to what the previous UK parliament and remoners like you have done during negotiation the EU. Keep making disruption, frustration.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]EU bullies are not working with Switzerland because the people are united. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/26/eu-will-come-regret-economic-blackmail-switzerland/[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The UK is much larger and more influential than Switzerland.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Now reality check of your background and knowledge of Brexit. Have you still not found the evidence that the UK is the second net largest contributors to the EU budget? If you proof that you have asked at least one of your prolific fellow remoaners on this thread that s/he did not know that. I will show you the link [/FONT]

goral wrote: »

Have you ever been to Switzerland I do not think so.
Switzerland is not a member of the EU, but it is a member of Schengen, moreover, Switzerland has the following:

1. Free movement of people
2. Air traffic
3. Road traffic
4. Agriculture
5. Technical trade barriers
6. Public procurement
7. Science

And:

8. Security and asylum and Schengen membership
9. Cooperation in fraud pursuits
10. Final stipulations in open questions about agriculture, environment, media, education, care of the elderly, statistics and services.

Switzerland also pays membership fees.
And Switzerland is still a neutral and independent country.
since Switzerland is not a member of the EU, there is no voting right in the EU Parliament. And it does not affect decisions.
Still, Switzerland has accepted these points because it pays off.
Switzerland is not an EU member, but you can open a business there and live in the same housing as Swiss citizens.
These are the real opportunity you have in the EU that you will not have after Brexit!
Switzerland, about a year ago, said trade with the UK after Brexit is not her priority. Too many problems with tariffs, bureaucracy. It won't pay off for them.