Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

adindas

Getting_greyer wrote: »

What's the criteria? Are the ERG and DUP included in this witch hunt? After all we would be out the EU and a nearly a year into future agreements if they voted for it first time.

Read my post #7545

Herzlos

Nazis committed war crimes as set out in the Geneva convention. I'm ot sure you could find a parallel to brexit traitors.

adindas wrote: »

It is not reflected here where you keep harping arguing that Brexit is a bad idea.

That was the old me, the new me thinks it's a great idea!

Hopefull the capital punishement is brought back in the UK

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-mp-bring-back-death-penalty-john-hayes-lincolnshire-capital-punishment-a8615731.html

And hopefully there is a movement to take all the people who let the UK to be humiliated in the first round of negotiation those who tied up the UK negotiators hands during negotiation to be accountable. There should be a public enquiry seeking a possibility of treason charge for these people. Keep in mind these people took part in the referendum those people took part in the GE.

I'm not sure you'll get the moderates on board by threatening to execute the remainers and traitors.
Are you also going to try people who resigned from the cabinet over May's deal? Everyone who voted against it? Ministers who forgot to bring a pen and conceded everything on the first day? PMs who extended the A50 deadline despite swearing not to?

Getting_greyer

Just skimmed. I'll read it properly in a bit. Can you clarify whom you mean by UK negotiators?

Is it No. 10, Dexeu or civil service etc. And do you include people who participated in a people vote march as "remoaners binding the hands" or is it MPs and or the UK courts/constitution etc

adindas

Herzlos wrote: »

Nazis committed war crimes as set out in the Geneva convention. I'm ot sure you could find a parallel to brexit traitors.

That was the old me, the new me thinks it's a great idea!

I'm not sure you'll get the moderates on board by threatening to execute the remainers and traitors.
Are you also going to try people who resigned from the cabinet over May's deal? Everyone who voted against it? Ministers who forgot to bring a pen and conceded everything on the first day? PMs who extended the A50 deadline despite swearing not to?

I am not aware that the discussion of the capital punishment is not allowed in this forum. The idea to bring back capital punishement was brough by a tory MP

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-mp-bring-back-death-penalty-john-hayes-lincolnshire-capital-punishment-a8615731.html

adindas

Getting_greyer wrote: »

Just skimmed. I'll read it properly in a bit. Can you clarify whom you mean by UK negotiators?

Is it No. 10, Dexeu or civil service etc. And do you include people who participated in a people vote march as "remoaners binding the hands" or is it MPs and or the UK courts/constitution etc

Many of the MPs who keep frustrating Brexit, which let the UK to be humiliated are the MPs who voted to trigger article 50. Some of them are making a secret manouvre with the EU while the country was negotiating with the EU.

Just to remind you the history of the witch hunt for ex-German Nazy took a few years after the second WW was over.

Herzlos

The UK was humiliated when David Davis turned up to negotiate.

adindas wrote: »

I am not aware that the discussion of the capital punishment is not allowed in this forum. The idea to bring back capital punishement was brough by a tory MP

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-mp-bring-back-death-penalty-john-hayes-lincolnshire-capital-punishment-a8615731.html

For violent criminals, not for political views or incompetent politicians.

Getting_greyer

adindas wrote: »

Many of the MPs who keep frustrating Brexit, which let the UK to be humiliated are the MPs who voted to trigger article 50. Some of them are making a secret manouvre with the EU while the country was negotiating with the EU.

Just to remind you the history of the witch hunt for ex-German Nazy took a few years after the second WW was over.

Thanks for the history lesson. Could you be a bit more specific in answering my question. As it stands I think you're saying mp's who voted for A50 but initially wanted a closer relationship with EU than proposed by May's government, some of those subsequently wanted to stop brexit by means of 2nd referendum.

If my understanding of your argument is correct then it's just some opposition MP's with no power to implement laws or sign international agreements without a commons majority that should be tried for treason?

adindas

Getting_greyer wrote: »

Thanks for the history lesson. Could you be a bit more specific in answering my question. As it stands I think you're saying mp's who voted for A50 but initially wanted a closer relationship with EU than proposed by May's government, some of those subsequently wanted to stop brexit by means of 2nd referendum.

If my understanding of your argument is correct then it's just some opposition MP's with no power to implement laws or sign international agreements without a commons majority that should be tried for treason?

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Getting_greyer

adindas wrote: »

[FONT=&quot]It is open to public enquiry, subject to debate in the parliament and the parliament to decide. In the past there are already a few opinion about this.[/FONT]
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It's the decisions of the courts to decide if an act is treasonous. It's up to parliament to decide to include actions that may have led to the impunity of our sovereign waters etc within any future Acts of parliament. Thankfully telegraph readers are not in the legislature of the UK.

I get the feeling your arguments are bordering on the absurd but I will give you benefit of doubt until I read your earlier post

gfplux

Getting_greyer wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts about the NI protocol?

If you had a GB based business that dealt primarily with EU, do you think you'd consider moving production to NI? Or do you think it wouldn't make much difference?

This under the assumption that the business wouldn't upstick to an EU state and that there will be some form of trade agreement by 2021(?).

If a business is going to move (a very big decision) and NI was in the frame why not ROI if one of the issues is Language.
I can’t see a good enough movement just to move within the UK unless you gamble on reunification.