Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

gfplux

As a remainer I see this as various Remainer groups.

Those who want no deal signing and hope that Brexit will be called off by revoking A50 (unlikely) or a further referendum that remain will win.

Those who see signing a withdrawal/transition/political understanding deal is preferable to the chaos and damage of leaving with no deal.

Those who voted remain but now would vote Brexit.

Those who voted remain but now just want it done.

Do any Remainers have thoughts on this and how +16 million are split between the above.

Is there a Brexiter who wants to have a go at splitting up the +17 million into today’s groups.

Is there any non voter (in the referendum) on this thread would like to estimate if any of the +/-15 million who did not bother care enough to have an opinion.

gfplux

This came through by email from Gov.uk this morning.
All details of the withdrawal agreement and the political understanding

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-withdrawal-agreement-and-political-declaration?utm_source=0ca9df6b-122f-48c1-a92b-dcc1f82e2c6f&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=immediate

BikingBud

Theophile wrote: »

Yeah terrible innit, politicians lie.
We were also guaranteed an end to boom and bust by Brown and Osborne promised to eliminate the deficit by 2015.

So what?
Is a broken promise much worse when it concerns your beloved brexit?

I can cope with party politics and lying but when the cross party support for A50 was so compelling, and just to remind you 498 to 114, the wholesale deceit on show since that was passed is intolerable and only demonstrates the utter contempt that politicians have for due process and the electorate.

RyanEzio

I see the ultra-remainers were up to their antics again today.


Shouting at Rees-Mogg and his son while he walked home


Pretty disgraceful to be honest.


Echos more to me why i'm glad I voted leave and would do so again.


These ant-democratic remainers are doing themselves NO favours.

Zero_Gravitas

RyanEzio wrote: »

I see the ultra-remainers were up to their antics again today.


Shouting at Rees-Mogg and his son while he walked home


Pretty disgraceful to be honest.


Echos more to me why i’m glad I voted leave and would do so again.


These ant-democratic remainers are doing themselves NO favours.

Just for balance, I see the brexit extremists were up to their antics again today.


Shouting at Diane Abbot.


Pretty disgraceful to be honest.


Echoes more to me why I’m glad I voted remain and would do so again.


These anti- democratic brexiteers who are too scared for a confirmatory vote now they actually know what the deal is are doing themselves NO favours.

RyanEzio

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

Just for balance, I see the brexit extremists were up to their antics again today.


Shouting at Diane Abbot.


Pretty disgraceful to be honest.


Echoes more to me why I’m glad I voted remain and would do so again.


These anti- democratic brexiteers who are too scared for a confirmatory vote now they actually know what the deal is are doing themselves NO favours.

There's not going to be a 2nd ref. So get that out of your remoaner head.



17.4 million voted to leave the EU, they are being ignored. I live in a leave area and i tell you something, the hatred is boiling over by how out of touch the local MP is.



Labour are the ones who are scared of a general election. Mainly because they'll lose it... quite badly.


Boris will win with a 100+ majority next election i am 100% sure of it.

Arklight

RyanEzio wrote: »

There's not going to be a 2nd ref. So get that out of your remoaner head.



17.4 million voted to leave the EU, they are being ignored. I live in a leave area and i tell you something, the hatred is boiling over by how out of touch the local MP is.



Labour are the ones who are scared of a general election. Mainly because they'll lose it... quite badly.


Boris will win with a 100+ majority next election i am 100% sure of it.

I live in a Leave area and most of the people here are much less interested in Brexit than they are in shovelling Pringles down their gobs and bickering about Dominos voucher codes on the town Facebook page.

This is fundamentally why you haven't (and probably won't get) Brexit.

gfplux

Johnson has written to Tusk.
The text of the letter came by email this morning from Gov.uk

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prime-ministers-letter-to-president-donald-tusk-19-october-2019?utm_source=9c1f7c72-f1b3-427e-ae77-196e9b91c09c&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=immediate

gfplux

This also came this morning. The OFFICIAL letters asking for an extension.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/letters-from-the-uk-to-the-eu-council-19-october-2019?utm_source=5509a7b2-8c50-484a-a954-aa06bd704831&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=immediate

Theophile

How clever.
An unsigned one requesting the extension and a signed one asking to ignore it. Probably another Dom Cummings idea.
Whatever was left of our reputation on the international stage, surely has completely gone now.