Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Herzlos

lvader wrote: »

It’s kind of irrelevant now because the backstop no longer exists but no I’d don’t think your argument stands up.

True. What's wrong with my argument though? A unilateral backstop is not a backstop.

lvader

Herzlos wrote: »

True. What's wrong with my argument though? A unilateral backstop is not a backstop.

Apart from the fact that it didn't have a time limit, the main issue is that it makes negotiating the future relationship more difficult. The withdrawal part of Brexit has been hard enough and there is a provision in law to exit the EU. You have to be able to walk away from a negotiation, even the EU understands that, that is why countries have veto powers over trade deals.

phillw

RyanEzio wrote: »

We're still leaving Oct 31st.

That is one possibility. There are others.

If Boris says we are, then that puts doubt on it for me.

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Maybe we are all just sick of naysayer remainers trying to block any attempt at moving the process forward?

Maybe we are all sick of overly optimistic leavers trying to leave at any cost?

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

Maybe we are all sick of overly optimistic leavers trying to leave at any cost?

There's still FOM.............

BikingBud

Brexit Broken Promises:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCfexSKSl4Q

Thrugelmir

BikingBud wrote: »

Brexit Broken Promises:

Hence why trust in the democratic system will be totally broken. Street protests and money will in future determine policy. Think I'll move to Cornwall and start campaigning for independence..........

gfplux

Conina wrote: »

Yes it is and that's why I'm putting up a link which explains the differences, then people can make up their own minds.

FWIW I thought remainers wanted a trade deal & links with the EU but from comments here it seems not, whereas surely anybody with even a modicum of understanding realized that if there was to be a deal it would involve compromises which hardliners from both sides would not like.

https://www.politico.eu/article/the-brexit-deal-explained-2/

Conina,, thanks for the link. A very interesting article.
Everyone on this thread needs to read it.

gfplux

lvader wrote: »

The main difference with the May deal and the Boris deal is that the May deal tied the whole of the UK to the EU indefinitely. In the Boris deal Great Britain is only tied in for the 1 year transition period and Northern Ireland can vote to remove themselves from the EU customs union should they wish to.

Except there could be an extension of the transition period at the end of 2020!

Theophile

BikingBud wrote: »

Brexit Broken Promises:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCfexSKSl4Q

Yeah terrible innit, politicians lie.
We were also guaranteed an end to boom and bust by Brown and Osborne promised to eliminate the deficit by 2015.

So what?
Is a broken promise much worse when it concerns your beloved brexit?

phillw

BikingBud wrote: »

Brexit Broken Promises:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCfexSKSl4Q

You got the link wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY