Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Sailtheworld

Conina wrote: »

Hasn't it gone quiet now that a deal's been reached? Next the votes, but even some EU sources are suggesting that Boris has played a bit of a blinder because even if (and it is "if") parliament rejects it the tories are almost guaranteed a substantial win in any GE which would no doubt come soon afterwards. Ergo the result would still be a vote to accept the deal, so voting no would only delay the deal and see many MP's lose their seats even sooner!

Seems that way at the moment but the Tories were pretty confident they'd increase their majority at the last election too. Right until the exit polls came out at 10pm.

If Boris was playing a blinder he wouldn't keep losing parliamentary votes.

phillw

Sailtheworld wrote: »

Seems that way at the moment but the Tories were pretty confident they'd increase their majority at the last election too. Right until the exit polls came out at 10pm.

If Boris was playing a blinder he wouldn't keep losing parliamentary votes.

I don't want to go into it too much in case it tips the leave voters off, but they aren't playing the game they think they are.

chelseablue

Just on the news, the EU has ruled out granting an extension

Zero_Gravitas

chelseablue wrote: »

Just on the news, the EU has ruled out granting an extension

But not so long back, the EU were ruling out re-opening the withdrawal agreement...

Theophile

Perpetually angry Farage is still angry. Should be a good deal then.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1191885/brexit-news-nigel-farage-boris-johnson-brexit-deal-eu-summit-leave-general-election

Prism

chelseablue wrote: »

Just on the news, the EU has ruled out granting an extension

The EU hasn't said that at all.

Conina

phillw wrote: »

I don't want to go into it too much in case it tips the leave voters off, but they aren't playing the game they think they are.

Your supposed insider knowledge is a bit 'off'. Like you said earlier, "not long to go now" before we see who's right.

RyanEzio

Boris needs to have meetings with ERG, expelled Tory rebels and get the word to Labour leave mps to have any chance of getting this through.


I've heard that the DUP aren't quite out of it yet. They are having meetings with business leaders over the next few days.



Jeremy Corbyn said he wasn't going to vote for it, even before they released the papers.


I see Farage wants an extension. I think he enjoys his gravy train EU job too much.



Surely even if you voted for remain or leave, this deal is a way to move forward.

Thrugelmir

Conina wrote: »

but even some EU sources are suggesting that Boris has played a bit of a blinder

Reality is that the EU itself doesn't want a no deal. Nor wishes to extend discussions further. It's make your mind up time. Politicians of all parties now need to think very carefully as to what they do next. As they could alienate themselves for a generation. Being intransigent is no longer an option.

phillw

Conina wrote: »

Your supposed insider knowledge is a bit 'off'. Like you said earlier, "not long to go now" before we see who's right.

The disinformation you're receiving is obviously working.

Boris has played a good game.

RyanEzio wrote: »

I see Farage wants an extension. I think he enjoys his gravy train EU job too much.

He wants one so much he is carefully misrepresenting what Jean Claude Juncker said & what the Benn act means.

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1184834973662175234

https://www.conservativehome.com/video/2019/10/watch-juncker-says-there-is-now-no-need-for-an-extension.html