Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

They're not worked up. They are telling the truth.

They haven't moved a mm. Nor do they have any intention of.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

They haven't moved a mm. Nor do they have any intention of.

Of course they will, just not over their red line of a legally enforceable instrument to prevent the UK government from pulling the kind of tricks they have been pulling recently.

I sometimes wonder if some people don't realize that our news reports can be seen in other countries. They will be taking note of the twisted arguments put forward by the government in the supreme court the last couple of days.

If Boris could convince them there is another way to have a legally enforceable solution, then they would certainly move. The problem is that only he's so untrustworthy they must check to see if he's stolen their wallets after having a meeting with him

Dee_Best

phillw wrote: »

Apparently so, no wait you might not be 100% correct :T

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/farming/will-ireland-have-a-vote-on-the-mercosur-deal-935735.html

When will a final text be available?
The text of the EU-Mercosur agreement will now have to proceed to so-called “legal scrubbing”, and translation, a process which can take between several months and up to two years to complete, before a final text is available.

It can't go any further until that is done, no matter what is said in the meantime. Therefore that is what has stalled it.

*Sigh*
That is not a "stall", it is part of due process (and haven't I said that language etc. is why the EU takes so long? Point proved AGAIN.) but the stated refusal to sign IS a "stall".

Sailtheworld

Thrugelmir wrote: »

They haven't moved a mm. Nor do they have any intention of.

The backstop itself was an EU concession for a start. The last thing they wanted was a promise that the UK would deliver solutions to the Irish border later.

EU wanted ECJ to police the WA.

EU citizens no longer have an automatic right to live in UK.

EU wanted a specific sum for divorce bill.

I don't keep this stuff in my mind; it's just that, unlike your house, google works where I live.

phillw

Dee_Best wrote: »

*Sigh*
That is not a "stall", it is part of due process (and haven't I said that language etc. is why the EU takes so long? Point proved AGAIN.) but the stated refusal to sign IS a "stall".

Thank you for proving my point :T

They aren't ready to sign because of what you say, so whether they say they will or won't sign it right now is not stalling.

It's just more good negotiating & they haven't left it to the last minute like failure Boris.

Just so you know, brexit seems to be delaying it more than anything else right now. I get the impression they're bored with us now and hope we just skulk off and starve, they've tried being good friends but we've outstayed our welcome

As for your disappointment that it's translated, I guess you think everyone should just speak english?

Zero_Gravitas

And for those leavers who are still labouring under the bizarre delusion that the liar Boris Johnson is not a liar:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49740419/boris-johnson-confronted-on-east-london-hospital-visit

Film of him actually lying.

Sailtheworld

Dee_Best wrote: »

Please post the winning numbers for Saturday's big Lottery draw?

If you're not confident enough to do that, please don't pretend the confidence of knowing what is likely to happen about Brexit.
Especially given the recent unexpected turns of events.
I didn't see you forecast proroguing parliament or the dismissal of non-compliant MP's so just maybe it's your advisors that need the boot.

Is that how it works Dee? If you can't pick the lottery numbers (1 in 45,000,000) you're not allowed to have a view on what might happen with brexit?

If so can you either pick this week's lottery numbers or stop pretending you've been a fly on the wall at EU trade negotiations

Sailtheworld

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

And for those leavers who are still labouring under the bizarre delusion that the liar Boris Johnson is not a liar:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49740419/boris-johnson-confronted-on-east-london-hospital-visit

Film of him actually lying.

He was taken by surprise and immediately put on the back foot but it's of note that his very first instinct was to utter a lie. Not a the World's biggest lie but blatant and unnecessary.

gfplux

Sailtheworld wrote: »

The backstop itself was an EU concession for a start. The last thing they wanted was a promise that the UK would deliver solutions to the Irish border later.

EU wanted ECJ to police the WA.

EU citizens no longer have an automatic right to live in UK.

EU wanted a specific sum for divorce bill.

I don't keep this stuff in my mind; it's just that, unlike your house, google works where I live.

Exactly.

I also recall the transition period was Britain’s idea. The U.K. wanted 2 years and the EU agree on 21 months.

Zuzel

More evidence that the remainers have been spinning yarns and the allegations of purely negative economic forecasts are lies:

UK inflation falls to lowest since 2016 in pre-Brexit boost to consumers

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-inflation/uk-inflation-falls-to-lowest-since-2016-in-pre-brexit-boost-to-consumers-idUKKBN1W30YD?il=0

Combine that with decent wage rises and the public have something to be cheerful about, just before Brexit too.