Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Moe_The_Bartender

phillw wrote: »

When you meet people who live their lives "Why tell the truth when there is a perfectly good lie?" then you should get away as quickly as possible.

Some conservative MPs have done that already.

As has Tom Watson but he's a pretty poor liar anyway.

You’re not above a bit of deception yourself at times.

Takedap

Dee_Best wrote: »

Proof of that please saying that Boris lied?
Because no he wasn't, he was sacked for not being open about a (private) affair.

If we're going to play the fairness card we could ask why wasn't Corbyn sacked for his affair with Diane Abbott?

This one do for you? Or do you want to argue about the meaning of the word "lie"??


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/nov/14/uk.conservatives


It wasn't the affair that finished him. It was lying to his paty leader when asked if it was over.

phillw

Moe_The_Bartender wrote: »

As has Tom Watson but he's a pretty poor liar anyway.

Your deflection is pretty poor. If you want to talk about Tom Watson then how about some facts?

Zuzel

All of that pointless and often nasty bickering is for nothing unless there is any evidence that a person's private life has any bearing or effect on the job they do.
It doesn't, otherwise a fair proportion of employees would be finding themselves out of a job on quite a regular basis.

It is generally accepted that a person's private life is just that: private.
Nothing to do with work; nothing to do with your insurance; nothing to do with your mortgage; etc. etc. etc.

Moe_The_Bartender

phillw wrote: »

Your deflection is pretty poor. If you want to talk about Tom Watson then how about some facts?

Are you saying that you are unfamiliar with his lies about his contacts with 'Nick' after his role in the Westminster ..... ring blew up in his face?

Moby

A new example of how demeaning it is to have a Prime Minister who is not across the detail and just doesn't understand the issues brexit raises!

The FT this morning reports on a chastening encounter over lunch between Johnson, Michel Barnier and Jean-Claude Juncker, which one official described as a “penny dropping” moment for the prime minister over what it really means to replace the Irish backstop.
According to an account of the meeting, the prime minister was told by his EU counterparts in no uncertain terms that the UK’s plan to replace the backstop by allowing Northern Ireland to stick to common EU rules on food and livestock (known as SPS) was not enough to prevent customs checks on the vast majority of goods that cross the Irish border.
At that point, a befuddled Johnson turned to David Frost, his chief negotiator, and Stephen Barclay, Brexit secretary, and said: “So you're telling me the SPS plan doesn’t solve the customs problem?”


Another example of the same crass idiocy from this morning in a speech at the European parliament by Nigel Farage. He says the only solution is a clean-break Brexit. Then the two sides can have a grown-up conversation about the future..........And he starts this 'grown-up' conversation by referring to the Prime Minister of Luxembourg as a 'pipsqueak'. Just when you think Farage couldn't get any lower he shows there are still depths for him to plummet........and of course he totally forgets that these are the very same people we will be negotiating with on our post brexit deal!


It's as if brexiteers are willing to burn the house down to get their brexit and they'll support any type of individual no matter their failings and inadequacy for the task so long as this individual is doing what they want!

Zuzel

EU officials also described...

Ah.
Right.
Obviously impeccably honest and completely truthful then as per history.
:rotfl:

Moby

Zuzel wrote: »

Ah.
Right.
Obviously impeccably honest and completely truthful then as per history.
:rotfl:

I think some sources are more reliable than others and you use your judgement....you have to in this post truth age. Of course what Farage said this morning may also be a lie.....perhaps the EU employ sophisticated technology to put false words into peoples mouths when they give speeches at the EU parliament!

lisyloo

Meanwhile Eu parliament votes 544-126 to grant extension if requested.

Cakeguts

lisyloo wrote: »

Meanwhile Eu parliament votes 544-126 to grant extension if requested.

Pity they haven't also voted to stop moving to Strasbourg every month and save the EU taxpayer's money though.