Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Herzlos

The US has something like a 10x higher rate of food poisoning, which is presumably just a coincidence.

Arklight

adindas wrote: »

Well why sensible people would need to spend time to think too many thing where there is an authority could provide an expert opinion. Let alone to believe the preach from a remoaner. The same thing when they preach about the sky will fall. Well I do expect that to really happen so no more remoaning.

Chlorinated chicken from the US in the UK market ? I will eat it. I prefer to eat the food like that as I have been made aware of it in advance rather than to eat horse meat which was packed as beef like the one you get from Romania. The people in the US do eat chlorinated chicken, yet the people there are still healthy and bright.

Keep in mind US win the most medals in the Olympic games (healthy), as well as intelligent considering a lot of inventions, nobel prize winner who did eat chlorinated chicken.

For arch remoaners, UK politicians who have traveled to new York and eat fried chicken from one of the fast food such as Kennedy Fried Chicken, Popeye fried chicken, blue ribbon they might have eaten chlorinated chicken. But what is amazing is that they still alive to this date telling all of scare mongering nonsense about chlorinated chicken. They should have died of illness for the thing they themselves have preached.

American meat is chlorinated because the slaughtering process is so rushed and unskilled that the intestines are usually ruptured. This means that the animal's meat is literally covered in its own faeces, which is then bleached and packaged for consumption.

While the image of Brexit voters eagerly tucking into their poo covered dinner is almost too delightful for words, I can't really condone the appalling suffering the American meat industry subjects animals to.

phillw

adindas wrote: »

I do not mind the food standard going down as long as it is authorised by a well developed countries standard authority as safe to eat.

In the US they authorize whatever people pay them to. They gave the thumbs up to the Boeing 737 Max

I'm not sure what you term "well developed" but for me the US doesn't really cut it. They need something like the EU to improve their standards, like we did.

BikingBud wrote: »

Many on here would have you believe otherwise.

Nope. You're making stuff up again as usual. We will be worse off for sure, but the sky is firmly in place. All of your "B.B.B.B.ut....." are easily disproved.

BikingBud wrote: »

However we all know that the horse meat originated somewhere within the EU and therefore our food standards agency staff did not complete any checks.

So lax application of EU regulation ergo national laws is a failure of the originating state.

I agree entirely

By 16 January 2013 four subsidiaries of ABP had been accused of supplying adulterated meat. They were Silvercrest in County Monaghan, Dalepak in North Yorkshire, Freshlink in Glasgow, ABP Nenagh in County Tipperary, Ireland and Dairy Crest, Rossington.

Hamburger meat from Silvercrest Foods, a subsidiary of Larry Goodman's ABP Food Group, in County Monaghan, Ireland, was found to contain 29% horse meat relative to beef. Porcine DNA was also found.[2] Tesco dropped Silvercrest as a supplier of processed meat, but ABP said that it "welcomed their decision to continue sourcing fresh beef from other ABP companies".[17] On 15 February 2013 Tesco said, "We will no longer work with the suppliers who fell below our very high standards."[18]

Thankfully we had the EU introducing laws to protect us.

Inquiry into horse meat sources in the UK also revealed that Aintree racecourse has a contract with a licensed slaughterhouse in West Yorkshire to remove dead Grand National race horses. It is illegal for horses euthanised by injection to be put into the human food chain.[66] Many chemical agents used for animal euthanasia leave residues in the meat which may be harmful to humans, and have caused sickness and death in animal predators and scavengers.[67] Aintree officials stated they were "as confident as we possibly can be that no unfit meat ever reaches the human food chain."[66]

However, one problem raised was over documentation; all of the UK animals with phenylbutazone contamination tested in early 2013 possessed a "horse passport" that allowed the carcasses to be sold for human consumption.[66]

The healthy and bright Americans eat it too.

There is also speculation that some horse meat from the United States, where phenylbutazone is commonly used, may have entered the food chain via Mexico and then been exported to Europe.[79] One reason for this is that Spanghero had purchased meat from a company, Draap, whose owner, Jan Fasen was previously convicted for fraud; as long ago as 2007, Draap had labelled horse meat imported from Mexico and South America as Dutch or German beef.[37] The primary concern is horse meat from the United States: up to 15% of horses sent to slaughter in Canada or Mexico are former racehorses that have been given drugs during their racing career, such as phenylbutazone, which are approved for use in horses but not humans and carry the warning "Do not use in horses intended for human consumption." Further, they are given medication at levels that led a research veterinarian to call them "walking pharmacies". These animals may have meat too toxic to eat safely.[80]

adindas

phillw wrote: »

In the US they authorize whatever people pay them to. They gave the thumbs up to the Boeing 737 Max

Corruption is illegal in the US. Now prove your allegation, if you tell the US authority it might help the authority to investigate that. Please post your evidence to the US authority. Keep in mind it will help you to prove your point if you could update it here. Otherwise people will keep saying that the arch remoaners will keep telling a nonsense BS story as usual.

Regarding Boeing 737 Max the approval might be based on what have not been known. In any technology there are always be a small thing that is not known before. When the fault is found later they try to find the solution, to recall it, to ratify it or stop them to operate. The same thing with hotpoint washer and tumble dryer, in the UK.The same thing with bug in the software. There are tons of examples regarding this. But in technology people will need to do this as part of finding a new things/ ways, innovation, invention.

Now come to Europe, what Mercedes was doing was even more serious that lead them to recall 60,000 Mercedes diesels in Germany over emissions cheating after it was found that they were fitted with software aimed at distorting emissions tests. And well do not forget horse meat from Romania scandal. All these things happen under the EU watchdog.

The EU comprise a lot of countries, It is only a naive to the extreme will ever believe that the poor countries in the EU such as those from former eastern bloc countries, Romania, Bulgaria, etc will have the same standard, or some even dare to say higher standard, living standard than the US. Well at least in a few decades to come. Just look at Airports, high rise buildings, Bridges, Rails in Romania, Bulgaria. Just look at take a way, restaurant in these countries, is there anyway near the one that you find in the US ???

But the EU will keep these naive people believing that miracle to get more money from the EU taxpayers. Surprisingly even a well educated people here in the EU will still believe that. Try to convince the people outside the EU such as those in Africa, Asia that Romania, Bulgaria have a higher standard, living standard than those in the US. Try to tell the most intelligent people in the word from Japan (for instance nobel prize winner) and come back here to tell the response that you have got.

StevieJ

I think I agree with him? He is suspending parliament to push Remainer MP's into stopping him. He will have appeased Farage and can then call an election asking to increase his majority. The Remainers will fall into his little trap. I think I now want a 'no deal' Brexit so Johnson and his mob have to deal with it, I am sick of Johnson and Cummings little games

Boris Johnson denies suspending parliament to stop MPs blocking no-deal

https://metro.co.uk/news/

veryintrigued

Politics.

Don't you just love it?

(Said not many people ever)

phillw

adindas wrote: »

Corruption is illegal in the US.

So is murder, it doesn't seem to have done much to reduce the number of people murdered in the US (and their solution is more killing).

The Boeing 737 Max problem was caused because they let Boeing certify their own plane.

Boeing lied about how much had changed from the 737.

It was clear after the first crash that they should have been grounded. The fact the US held out for two days after the second crash before grounding them was outrageous.

The problems with the FAA aren't new https://www.aviationlawmonitor.com/2012/08/general-aviation/the-faas-three-biggest-problems/

2. The Problem of the Captive Regulator. Putting aside the inherent conflict of interest, the FAA is simply too close to the industry it regulates to do an effective job. This problem is not unique to aviation. For example, the drug industry has tremendous influence over its regulating agency, the FDA. We saw that play out most recently last year, when we learned that a number of the FDA committee members who voted against requiring stronger warnings on a drug’s label had economic ties with the drug’s manufacturer.

The FDA are the people who say it's ok to eat chlorinated chicken.

Thrugelmir

StevieJ wrote: »

I am sick of Johnson and Cummings little games

And everyone else is your hero no doubt.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

And everyone else is your hero no doubt.

I'm not sure I'd use the word hero, but I'm grateful for anyone who can save us from the economic damage that liar johnson and his sick cohorts wish to inflict on the UK for their own gain. JRM has made a fortune.

veryintrigued

Definition of hypocrisy:

MPs stating Boris' latest move is undemocratic.