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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • adindas
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    edited 28 August 2019 at 2:41PM
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    And everyone else is your hero no doubt.

    Arch remoaners might have considered these people as their heros for trying to stop Brexit.

    Heidi Allen (Conservative - South Cambridgeshire)
    Anna Soubry (Conservative - Broxtowe)
    Mr Chuka Umunna (Labour - Streatham)
    Mr Philip Hammond (Conservative - Runnymede and Weybridge)
    Yvette Cooper (Labour - Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford)
    Jeremy Corbyn (Labour - Islington North)
    Mr Dominic Grieve (Conservative - Beaconsfield)
    Mr George Osborne (Conservative - Tatton)
    Mr David Gauke (Conservative - South West Hertfordshire)
    Keir Starmer (Labour - Holborn and St Pancras)

    But do they realize, all of these people voted to trigger article 50 when they still have a very good chance to reverse Brexit.

    You poor guys, that is the price to pay in believing in these opportunistic politicians. Take Mr Chuka Umunna, for instance how many times he has changed his mind ??? He was labour, Change UK, Independent and then now LibDem. He just moved to the place where the grass is greener.

    Sensible people who have not been blindfolded will consider them as betrayers. How much money Gina Miller have lost in fighting to reverse brexit, relying on these people to overturn brexit ???.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/article-50-parliament-mps-vote-brexit-theresa-may-eu-negotiations-labour-conservative-how-voted-a7558291.html
  • movilogo
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    Definition of hypocrisy:

    MPs stating Boris' latest move is undemocratic.

    Typical remoaners :rotfl:

    Overturn democratic referendum result = democracy
    BoJo trying to honour referendum result = death of democracy

    I said here before, Brexit is like Hulk, more ammunition you throw at it, stronger it becomes.

    Remoaners have choices - Brexit under BoJo or Brexit under Farage. Choose wisely. :cool:
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • adindas
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    edited 28 August 2019 at 3:12PM
  • adindas
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    phillw wrote: »
    So is murder, it doesn't seem to have done much to reduce the number of people murdered in the US (and their solution is more killing).

    The Boeing 737 Max problem was caused because they let Boeing certify their own plane.

    Boeing lied about how much had changed from the 737.

    It was clear after the first crash that they should have been grounded. The fact the US held out for two days after the second crash before grounding them was outrageous.

    The problems with the FAA aren't new https://www.aviationlawmonitor.com/2012/08/general-aviation/the-faas-three-biggest-problems/

    2. The Problem of the Captive Regulator. Putting aside the inherent conflict of interest, the FAA is simply too close to the industry it regulates to do an effective job. This problem is not unique to aviation. For example, the drug industry has tremendous influence over its regulating agency, the FDA. We saw that play out most recently last year, when we learned that a number of the FDA committee members who voted against requiring stronger warnings on a drug’s label had economic ties with the drug’s manufacturer.

    The FDA are the people who say it's ok to eat chlorinated chicken.

    Corruption is illegal in the US. Now prove your allegation, if you tell the US authority it might help the authority to investigate that. Please post your evidence to the US authority. Keep in mind it will help you to prove your point if you could update it here. Otherwise people will keep saying that the arch remoaners will keep telling a nonsense BS story as usual.

    Regarding Boeing 737 Max the approval might be based on what have not been known. In any technology there are always be a small thing that is not known before. When the fault is found later they try to find the solution, to recall it, to ratify it or stop them to operate. The same thing with hotpoint washer and tumble dryer, in the UK.The same thing with bug in the software. There are tons of examples regarding this. But in technology people will need to do this as part of finding a new things/ ways, innovation, invention.

    Now come to Europe, what Mercedes was doing was even more serious that lead them to recall 60,000 Mercedes diesels in Germany over emissions cheating after it was found that they were fitted with software aimed at distorting emissions tests. And well do not forget horse meat from Romania scandal. All these things happen under the EU watchdog
  • Herzlos
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    And all of those things were heavily punished under the EU watchdog. You can't spin companies breaking the law as a failing of the EU - they'd do the same in the UK but probably without the consequences.

    adindas wrote: »


    It doesn't sound like fear at all. They are incredulous at our actions, and asserted they still aren't going to change the deal. What bits make you think they are scared of it?
  • phillw
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    adindas wrote: »

    Can you be more specific about whom is scared? The express has a delusional take on reality, it's not really news as such.

    You should be scared.
  • phillw
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    adindas wrote: »
    Corruption is illegal in the US. Now prove your allegation, if you tell the US authority it might help the authority to investigate that.

    I've posted evidence that the authority is run by people involved in the industry itself & that the position has been abused. If you don't want to believe it because of some blind faith in the US then it's up to you.

    Just look how long it took for Epstein & Weinstein to be held to account. The US is broken. The same people are trying to break the UK.
  • adindas
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    edited 28 August 2019 at 4:58PM
    phillw wrote: »
    I've posted evidence that the authority is run by people involved in the industry itself & that the position has been abused. If you don't want to believe it because of some blind faith in the US then it's up to you.

    Corruption is illegal in the US. Now prove your allegation, if you tell the US authority it might help the authority to investigate that. Please post your evidence to the US authority. Keep in mind it will help you to prove your point if you could update it here. Otherwise people will keep saying that the arch remoaners will keep telling a nonsense BS story as usual.
    phillw wrote: »
    Just look how long it took for Epstein & Weinstein to be held to account. The US is broken. The same people are trying to break the UK.

    Good to take time when you want to make sure that someone is guilty. So it is evidence that process is rigorous. This is to ensure that you do not put someone innocent in jail.
  • phillw
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    edited 28 August 2019 at 3:32PM
    adindas wrote: »
    Corruption is illegal in the US. Now prove your allegation, if you tell the US authority it might help the authority to investigate that. Please post your evidence to the US authority. Keep in mind it will help you to prove your point if you could update it here. Otherwise people will keep saying that the arch remoaners will keep telling a nonsense BS story as usual.

    The corruption is at the top of the authority, they won't investigate. Enough people have been posting evidence of this for a long time. Would you shut up if I post a video ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgf-nBeI1g8

    I'm sure the FDA have heard of wikipedia, they could read it if they wanted to.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Food_and_Drug_Administration

    They probably wouldn't read the independent, but they can use google like I did.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fda-drugs-companies-pharmaceutical-us-pay-doctors-approval-fompanies-astrazeneca-a8433621.html

    Like with Epstein and Weinstein it took a long time before they were listened to. Trump is in the same club.
  • mayonnaise
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    adindas wrote: »
    Corruption is illegal in the US. Now prove your allegation, if you tell the US authority it might help the authority to investigate that. Please post your evidence to the US authority. Keep in mind it will help you to prove your point if you could update it here. Otherwise people will keep saying that the arch remoaners will keep telling a nonsense BS story as usual.
    adindas wrote: »
    Corruption is illegal in the US. Now prove your allegation, if you tell the US authority it might help the authority to investigate that. Please post your evidence to the US authority. Keep in mind it will help you to prove your point if you could update it here. Otherwise people will keep saying that the arch remoaners will keep telling a nonsense BS story as usual.
    adindas wrote: »
    Corruption is illegal in the US. Now prove your allegation, if you tell the US authority it might help the authority to investigate that. Please post your evidence to the US authority. Keep in mind it will help you to prove your point if you could update it here. Otherwise people will keep saying that the arch remoaners will keep telling a nonsense BS story as usual.

    AutoSergei is stuck in a loop again.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
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