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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • adindas
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    edited 28 August 2019 at 4:00PM
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    AutoSergei is stuck in a loop again.

    An effective method to response, if the other party is not responding directly but rather talking other things.

    Adindas here, who is Auto Sergei ???
    Have you stockpiled your mayonnaise ?? Brexit will impact the mayonnaise supply in the UK
  • adindas
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    edited 28 August 2019 at 4:30PM
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-live-brexit-no-deal-election-corbyn-latest-updates-a9081471.html

    God saves the UK on the last minutes before it turns to become a vassal state of the EU.
  • Thrugelmir
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    phillw wrote: »
    Just look how long it took for Epstein & Weinstein to be held to account.

    Epstein had previously served time.
  • Backbiter
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    edited 28 August 2019 at 6:30PM
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Epstein had previously served time.

    The 'Time' he served was about as close to getting away with it as possible.
    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html
    Facing a 53-page federal indictment, Epstein could have ended up in federal prison for the rest of his life.

    But on the morning of the breakfast meeting, a deal was struck — an extraordinary plea agreement that would conceal the full extent of Epstein’s crimes and the number of people involved.

    Not only would Epstein serve just 13 months in the county jail, but the deal — called a non-prosecution agreement — essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein’s sex crimes, according to a Miami Herald examination of thousands of emails, court documents and FBI records.

    The pact required Epstein to plead guilty to two prostitution charges in state court. Epstein and four of his accomplices named in the agreement received immunity from all federal criminal charges. But even more unusual, the deal included wording that granted immunity to “any potential co-conspirators’’ who were also involved in Epstein’s crimes. These accomplices or participants were not identified in the agreement, leaving it open to interpretation whether it possibly referred to other influential people who were having sex with underage girls at Epstein’s various homes or on his plane.

    As part of the arrangement, Acosta agreed, despite a federal law to the contrary, that the deal would be kept from the victims. As a result, the non-prosecution agreement was sealed until after it was approved by the judge, thereby averting any chance that the girls — or anyone else — might show up in court and try to derail it.

    Unlike other convicted sex offenders, Epstein didn’t face the kind of rough justice that child sex offenders do in Florida state prisons. Instead of being sent to state prison, Epstein was housed in a private wing of the Palm Beach County jail. And rather than having him sit in a cell most of the day, the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office allowed Epstein work release privileges, which enabled him to leave the jail six days a week, for 12 hours a day, to go to a comfortable office that Epstein had set up in West Palm Beach. This was granted despite explicit sheriff’s department rules stating that sex offenders don’t qualify for work release.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Backbiter wrote: »
    The 'Time' he served was about as close to getting away with it as possible.


    Obviously had a little black of book of favours to call in. Same as Weinstein. Money unfortunately buys influence.

    Much as Brown don't go after Goodwin or the senior management of HBOS after the GFC. Throw mud expect some back.

    There again in the UK we try people by media not in the courts.
  • Backbiter
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    We're fortunate to have a very honest, truthful and trustworthy PM who is opposed to prorogation:
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  • Enterprise_1701C
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    edited 28 August 2019 at 7:28PM
    When parliament itself is trying to prevent that which the populace have voted for, then desperate times require desperate measures. He is simply trying to do what was promised by a lot of people within parliament, and that is fulfil the wishes of the electorate.

    I might remind you that the two main parties said in their manifesto that they would deliver Brexit, even If labour was more after a Brino.
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
  • phillw
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    And let me remind you that nobody voted for leaving without a deal and none of the parties had it in their manifesto.

    Before the referendum voters were promised all the benefits of the single market plus plus
  • Oh and just one other thing.

    He is not prorogueing parliament.
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
  • ben501
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    phillw wrote: »
    And let me remind you that nobody voted for leaving without a deal

    Were the voting forms different in different areas? Around where I live, nobody voted for anything other than leaving or remaining.

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    I didn't get asked about the 'type of leave'.

    Whatever anyone thought of Theresa May's deal, it was all that was, and I assume still is on offer. Maybe MPs should go back and rethink their 'party politics before representing their constituents' approach.
    Admittedly I'm biased as I voted leave, but to me, Johnson is just making sure those 4 words on the bottom of the poll card are enacted. It's going to be messy, but at least he'll have done what we voted for.
    Maybe not in the way we wanted, or the way we thought, but at the end of the day, believe what truth or lies you want, we're heading for what we voted for.
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