Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Arklight

Peter_Williams wrote: »

''We''?
You think you're part of the government?
The UK government couldn't care less if you died tomorrow. They'd step over your corpse in the street.
A brainwashed individual indeed.

I was speaking figuratively and with irony. Was that not clear from the "rolling on the floor laughing" emoji, or do you think people from Whitehall habitually post here?

Arklight

adindas wrote: »

How could you say it is a terrible idea if UK is still in the EU. What you see now is the disruption caused the re-moaners who do not want to accept the result of a very democratic decision taken in the referendum and ratified by the Parliament.

So if you do not want to see this disruption ask re-moaners to stop remoaning and accept the result of the referendum.

Everybody knows that there will be a short term impact of Brexit , but Brexit is all about the long term benefit not short term. The same things when the nation had to make decision of joining EURO, now a few decades later you could see who are laughing now.

Come back in this forum in about ten years time and prove it that Brexit is a terrible idea.

Pretty easily. It's a terrible idea, and I'm afraid all the misspelled missives on the internet and "remoaner" epithets have failed to convince me otherwise.

No, the EU isn't perfect but it is a lot better than being cut adrift led by Boris Johnson and his hate filled cabinet of Breitbart misfits with the Tory propaganda machine squawking about tractor production via the Daily Mail.

You see, you can never expel enough foreigners for the Right to stop considering foreigners to be the problem. Even when the last Pole is sent packing on the last ferry to Calais, the foreigners will still be out there, plotting.

The modern world is about learning to live with our neighbours, not pretending they don't exist. And I don't especially want to be stuck in a country with only Brexit voters for company.

Peter_Williams

Arklight wrote: »

I was speaking figuratively and with irony. Was that not clear from the "rolling on the floor laughing" emoji, or do you think people from Whitehall habitually post here?

Sorry, there are so many brainwashed muppets around these days, it's hard to tell.

Fran_Klee

Peter_Williams wrote: »

Sorry, there are so many brainwashed muppets around these days, it's hard to tell.

There are indeed but we're getting used to the antics of those remainers by now.

Peter_Williams

Fran_Klee wrote: »

There are indeed but we're getting used to the antics of those remainers by now.

Anyone who considers themselves a ''Remainer'' or a ''Leaver'' is a brainwashed muppet.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

Pragmatism

Pragmatism will get them to do a deal with us, but with the hugely uneven power balance and the fact we've been annoying them won't go in our favour.
Pragmatism on our part is going to force us to accept whatever deal they are offering us. Whatever that is will make May's deal look like Panacea.

Fran_Klee

Peter_Williams wrote: »

Anyone who considers themselves a ''Remainer'' or a ''Leaver'' is a brainwashed muppet.

And what is the person who uses such derogatory terminology on huge swathes of the population called?

Zero_Gravitas

Fran_Klee wrote: »

And what is the person who uses such derogatory terminology on huge swathes of the population called?

Currently the Prime Minister, if his “f@@k business” comment is anything to go by.

BikingBud

gfplux wrote: »

Why would they actually want to do a trade deal.

Last year, the Office for National Statistics says that we bought about £90 billion more in goods than we sold to other EU countries. At the same time, we ran a £20 billion trade surplus in services, selling more than we bought. So our overall trade deficit in good and services was about £70 billion overall.

Seems simple to me. People selling stuff will not have too many scruples, they would wish to sustain trade with the UK against a backdrop of global reduction in consumption.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Pragmatism will get them to do a deal with us, but with the hugely uneven power balance and the fact we've been annoying them won't go in our favour.
Pragmatism on our part is going to force us to accept whatever deal they are offering us. Whatever that is will make May's deal look like Panacea.

There will be a balance in power to EU but don't forget impact will vary across EU countries and a deal will benefit both sides.

May's deal was just withdrawal agree not final trading arrangement.