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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    Zuzel wrote: »
    You're expecting remainers here to accept facts? :rotfl:

    Don't be silly; as above they'd rather promote dissent even when obviously based on lies than accept facts.



    It's hilarious, isn't it?
    The obvious abject horror of some remainers screeching and foot-stamping at the prospect of a pro-Brexit government from the top-down after years of remainer scheming comes to a fruition they didn't expect, following their repeatedly trying to deny upholding the democratic decision of a vote held three years ago.
    Well if they were for once honest (unlikely I accept) they would agree that this is the position we should have been in immediately the results of the referendum became known, with a Brexit-focused government.
    Keep it up though remainers; at this rate we'll see an election with another outcome they won't like and have Nigel Farage as Prime Minister, leading to a far more decisive form of Brexit than their worst nightmares ever envisaged.
    So yes, keep it up - and wonder why I like so many others am laughing a true ROTFL at their displeasure as the obvious result of continued denial draws ever nearer.
    One word: karma.
    :T

    I think you misunderstand Democracy. Democracy allows for dissent and as a remainer I do not agree with the non binding referendums result and will continue to excersize my Democratic right to protest against it.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    100 days today before Britain leaves the EU “Do or Die”
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • Tromking
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    gfplux wrote: »
    I think you misunderstand Democracy. Democracy allows for dissent and as a remainer I do not agree with the non binding referendums result and will continue to excersize my Democratic right to protest against it.

    For a non binding referendum the result has proven remarkably resilient, in the face of a 2/3rd’s Remain Parliament, a pro Remain civil society and a highly sceptical MSM it’s force is still strong.
    The political class is still scared witless that if they don’t enact Brexit to the liking of people like me, then chaos will ensue.
    The middle class hissy-fit on Brexit for the moment at least, is for the birds.
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
  • SouthLondonUser
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    What do you mean resilient? Let me remind you that, at the EU elections just now, the clearly pro Brexit parties have won less than 50%. UKIP + Brexit Party ca 33% of the votes. UKIP + Brexit + Tories ca 42% (and not all Tories are leavers).

    Does this mean the country is certainly pro Remain now? No, because Labour is split, and so are its voters. It means we don't know for sure. Do you?

    Don't confuse winking the largest share of the votes in most constituency with winning >50% of the votes overall, those are very different things.

    A FPTP electoral system is highly distortive and unrepresentative in this respect. A referendum isn't, every vote counts the same and no vote is wasted. So there could be a situation, for example, where the Brexit Party wins a majority in Westminster with 30% of the votes, BUT remain might win in another referendum. I am not saying I know for sure that's the case, I'm just saying it's possible
  • Arklight
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    It's hard to believe Boris Johnson is Prime Minister.

    Can politics in this country sink any lower?
  • It would if Corbyn ever got in.
    The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.
  • I think you misunderstand Democracy. Democracy allows for dissent and as a remainer I do not agree with the non binding referendums result and will continue to excersize my Democratic right to protest against it.

    What democratic right is that? Don't you live in Luxembourg?
    The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.
  • Moby
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    edited 24 July 2019 at 11:06AM
    Arklight wrote: »
    It's hard to believe Boris Johnson is Prime Minister.

    Can politics in this country sink any lower?

    It's a sad reflection of the continuing influence of class and privilege as a way to power and influence. How many of our PM's now is it who went to Eton? I watched the result announcement at the QE building....how many people in that hall represent a cross section of the country? Very few...they were all part of the same 'ruling class', protected by better opportunities and networking and laws which are designed by them to protect their interests, (e.g property law).


    Boris Johnson is typical....his father held a prominent post in the EU, his sister is a media/politician, his brother is another Tory MP....did that really happen by chance....are they just a very talented family? No they are products of privilege, with access to opportunities the rest of us never have. An arrogant self belief will have been instilled in them from when they are young!..Boris Johnson doesn't believe in anything apart from Boris. After he left Oxford, he got a job as a journalist for the Telegraph.....I'm sure he worked his way up the ladder....and then he landed the plum EU correspondents post. He then thought he'd dabble in politics and just happened to gain the plum Henley seat. During the referendum it was touch and go which side he would support. He nearly supported his old Bullingdon club mate Cameron but sweated on it and came out in favour of leave.....purely out of conviction I'm sure!


    Such people are making the decisions which allocate the resources that the rest of us fight over.....and people who probably have very little themselves are dazzled by them and prefer to worry about Jeremy Corbyn!
  • movilogo
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    Arklight wrote: »
    It's hard to believe Boris Johnson is Prime Minister.

    Can politics in this country sink any lower?

    Be careful ;) if you throw too much tantrum this time you might see Brexit under Farage next :D
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • lisyloo
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    movilogo wrote: »
    Be careful ;) if you throw too much tantrum this time you might see Brexit under Farage next :D

    Or referendum 2 under Corbyn.
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