Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

melanzana

Tromking wrote: »

To be fair to the Irish, you have to be a bit idiotic as country to be still so closely wedded to the British internal market one hundred years after independence.

It is the EU internal market. But there we are, the British education system is not that good really.

LHW99

What the public sees is theatrics. The stitch up will be a 1 or 2 year extension.

And then what??

Tromking

melanzana wrote: »

It is the EU internal market. But there we are, the British education system is not that good really.

No.
You mentioned it yourself, Ireland is specifically exposed to the potential loss of access to the British internal market because of Brexit.
Do keep up.

melanzana

Tromking wrote: »

No.
You mentioned it yourself, Ireland is specifically exposed to the potential loss of access to the British internal market because of Brexit.
Do keep up.

Quote me on that my dear Brexiteer

BTW there is no such thing as a British internal market. Is there?

It is an EU Single Market provision.

But get angry, have a go, get riled, I don't mind. I do not take it personally at all.

Tromking

melanzana wrote: »

Quote me on that my dear Brexiteer

BTW there is no such thing as a British internal market. Is there?

It is an EU Single Market provision.

But get angry, have a go, get riled, I don't mind. I do not take it personally at all.

Who ‘s angry?
You conceded a few posts back that Ireland would be effected by Brexit.
Of course the British internal market exists, its what the Irish are concerned about losing access to.

BikingBud

melanzana wrote: »

Well if three years was not long enough to decide, why not extend?

Then it will be like elastic and there will be no Brexit at all.

Looking at the demonising of Dominic Grieve in his constituency really made me think !!!!!! is going on here?

https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1112011627312934913

Honestly, it is awful, and the thin end of the wedge really. We are lost now.

He had, a choice represent his constituents or go it alone.

One must consider that if you do go it alone then one should expect the constituents will have their say.

BikingBud

Perhaps the Ukraine have the correct idea.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47767440

At least you know you are voting for someone with comedy value. :T

Rather than a whole load of people that make it look like the world's worst circus:mad:

melanzana

Tromking wrote: »

Who ‘s angry?
You conceded a few posts back that Ireland would be effected by Brexit.
Of course the British internal market exists, its what the Irish are concerned about losing access to.

Look, it was just your reference to the UK having its own INTERNAL MARKET that prompted me to respond.

Of course Ireland will be affected, everyone knows this.

Are you gleeful about that, and if so why?

Thrugelmir

melanzana wrote: »

UK Brexit is UK led. End of story. And I am guessing that most of the EU countries don't really care TBH. ROI will be affected for sure, but that has been the British way for centuries, they believe that ROI is just a post colonial population of idiots anyway ha ha. and will bow to whatever UK say now. (I have Irish heritage and got an Irish passport now too yay).

Agree. EU membership provides huge benefits to Eastern European states. Will remain net beneficiaries whether the UK is part of the bloc or not.

Nothing to do with history. ROI is geographically detached from mainland Europe. In terms of both imports and exports the relationship with the UK is complex. From agriculture, to electric, to fulfillment of online shopping orders.

My heritage is German. If you think life is tough now. Then read up on what previous generations faced as economic immigrants.

Holding a passport is only one part of a far more life changing decision. Rather different to live somewhere day in day out than holiday, or work for a period of time. The grass isn't always greener.

melanzana

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Agree. EU membership provides huge benefits to Eastern European states. Will remain net beneficiaries whether the UK is part of the bloc or not.

Nothing to do with history. ROI is geographically detached from mainland Europe. In terms of both imports and exports the relationship with the UK is complex.

My heritage is German. If you think life is tough now. Then read up on what previous generations faced as economic immigrants.

I do acknowledge that if UK does eventually leave EU that ROI will be severely impacted, through no fault of its own.

I suppose I am speaking from my heritage though, and that can be a tad insular too.

But anyway, my firm hope for all this is, that it will be peaceful no matter what. I am getting vibes about the hard right, if for example Brexit in its hardest form is not delivered, but I hope that will be short lived or may not happen at all hopefully.

Does anyone want conflict? I don't for sure. And GFA has led to the end of the troubles in NI, which was a big issue too, lest we forget. Putting up a border (whichever side has to do it) will not be pleasant for anyone.

And it is all so unnecessary really. Sad times, but hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel.