Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Enterprise_1701C

Theres a simple way to avoid meat with lower safety standards.

BUY BRITISH.

And if KFC wish to use what you class as unsafe meat products, avoid using it. I doubt if they would though, they say they care about chicken welfare.

kabayiri

phillw wrote: »

Nobody is saying it will happen the day after, to load up a container with contaminated meat and get it to UK shores will take a couple of months. Which is why people are a bit worried what customs declarations and checks their shipments that left while we were in the EU will face.

There doesn't seem to be any indication what will happen in the medium term.

People do not care about the quality of the foodstuffs they eat.

If they did, they would not buy so much processed low quality food.

Why do you think so much broiler chicken is imported from Thailand? Do you think Thai chickens live some kind of idyllic life?

Since the concern is about chlorine, why do the public accept a lot of pre-processed salad washed in chlorinated water? Double standards at play perhaps?

lisyloo

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Theres a simple way to avoid meat with lower safety standards.

BUY BRITISH.

And if KFC wish to use what you class as unsafe meat products, avoid using it. I doubt if they would though, they say they care about chicken welfare.

I eat in restaurants and occassionally street food.
This is usually in London and decent stuff but anyone that goes out cannot be sure of where every ingredient has come from unless they research beforehand which lacks spontinaeity.

Dalepak appears to be an English company.

Are you sure this is cut & dried.
I’m not.

Herzlos

phillw wrote: »

I don't know if parliament will take no deal off the table or ask for an extension, but if they do then it's unclear why the EU would grant one.

(either Spain for France) has stated they'll veto an extension unless there's concrete evidence it'll get them somewhere - so to finalize a deal Parliament is likely to pass. I doubt the rest of the EU disagrees with them, so we're not going to get an extension beyond the MEP elections without a good reason.

ukcarper wrote: »

Distrust on its own but ignoring the result will go deeper than that.

Why? Because some vocal leavers will scream and shout?
Do you think they'll be silent if we crash out?

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Theres a simple way to avoid meat with lower safety standards.

BUY BRITISH.

That'd be fine if we produced enough of it, everyone could afford it, and there was a way to identify the source of all food stuff. I can buy British chicken in Asda, but I have no say over where the meat in a restaurant comes from.

kabayiri wrote: »

Since the concern is about chlorine, why do the public accept a lot of pre-processed salad washed in chlorinated water? Double standards at play perhaps?

It's not the chlorine as such, it's safe enough in the quantities used. It's what the chlorine is used for; chicken that sits in it's own waste and rotting flesh.

lisyloo

ukcarper wrote: »

Distrust on its own but ignoring the result will go deeper than that.

I don’t see how anyone can claim it’s being ignored.
We’ve been distracted for the best part of 3 years by it at great cost.

phillw

kabayiri wrote: »

People do not care about the quality of the foodstuffs they eat.

If they did, they would not buy so much processed low quality food.

A lot of people care and others simply assume that the food is of good quality. If we allow low quality food then it increases the drain on the NHS.

kabayiri wrote: »

Since the concern is about chlorine, why do the public accept a lot of pre-processed salad washed in chlorinated water? Double standards at play perhaps?

No, you don't understand why chlorinated chicken is a problem...

It's not that chlorine is bad, it's because it's commonly used to make old meat look like new. It doesn't have the same effect on salad.

The people making the salad argument know it's a strawman.

lisyloo

I’m an omnivore but it does seem to me that going vegetarian would be a lot easier than checking every ingredient I buy in a shop, restaurant or stall (pretty difficult to do with any certainty).

ukcarper

lisyloo wrote: »

I don’t see how anyone can claim it’s being ignored.
We’ve been distracted for the best part of 3 years by it at great cost.

Isn't the reason we have been distracted for three years because the majority of MPs have refused to accept result.

Enterprise_1701C

lisyloo wrote: »

I eat in restaurants and occassionally street food.
This is usually in London and decent stuff but anyone that goes out cannot be sure of where every ingredient has come from unless they research beforehand which lacks spontinaeity.

Dalepak appears to be an English company.

Are you sure this is cut & dried.
I’m not.

Fair enough. We don't actually eat out very often, if we do it tends to be at a restaurant very well known to the family, and with a very good reputation within the town in which it is based. They value that reputation and would not risk it by buying in meat from a less than trustworthy source.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Why? Because some vocal leavers will scream and shout?
Do you think they'll be silent if we crash out

.

I don't think you are aware of the strength of feeling in the country amongst leave voters.