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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder
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Enterprise_1701C wrote: »So the fact that there was mass sexual assaults all over Germany New Years 2015/2016 by the immigrants they let in is nothing to do with the eu?
The percentage of immigrants who were involved was low & non immigrants also commit sexual assaults. Are you saying it's worse to be assaulted by an immigrant? It seems to be a law enforcement issue.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »Locally we have a massive amount of Eastern Europeans, they have their own shops, they also expect to find their own products in our shops, that is not a problem.
How dare they. I can't imagine us British going somewhere and expecting to get British food, no wait....Enterprise_1701C wrote: »But they have actually prevented our own Lidl from having those "forecourt sales" they used to have because they came in massive numbers and took everything people had picked up, put it in their cars and went, they did not pay. Even before these massive numbers turned up I was actually looking at something in one of those sales and someone that sounded Polish came along and took it out of my hands.
Right, it's a scientific fact that only Polish sounding people can commit crimes. British people are salt of the earth and never stole anything. No, wait...
Police cuts sound more to blame than Polish sounding people. With less money after brexit, expect more police cuts & more crime.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »They used to be nice people that bothered to learn English and were polite, it seems almost as if the sheer numbers of them have turned them into rude, inconsiderate people.
No, you're just applying a stereotype to all immigrants.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »The simple weight of numbers affects our culture, of course it does,
Our culture of curries and kebabs? You're trying to snapshot a period in time and don't want foreigners to change things. We're all immigrants.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »as it does with any immigrants, but that is the intention of the eu.
No, it's not the intention of the EU. You just feel like it is.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »They want everyone to move around so that eventually you cannot identify your own country (we are pretty close to that already),
I can easily identify my own country.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »that way they can argue that the us of e might as well be one country.
We might as well, by your argument even without immigrants we have such a diverse culture that we should split the country back up like it used to be.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »And, although I know this is a British thing, the cost of translation services for any immigrants that come here and can't be bothered to learn English is a massive weight on the shoulders of the NHS, and a lot of other services.
NHS yearly budget is £127 billion, NHS translation services cost £23 million. It's an amount of money sure, but "massive weight"?Enterprise_1701C wrote: »At least once we are out we can require people to learn English before they come here.
Brits don't go anywhere without learning the local language first, er no that's not right
There is no way that we will require people to learn English before they come.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »We should make them pay for the translation services
The NHS can't even be bothered to reclaim money from countries that it can. Refusing to treat them would be incompatible with the Hippocratic oath. I don't think the EU is responsible for us providing translation services & it's unlikely we'll stop.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »Oh, and what about the Eastern Europeans (at least a couple of Polish registered cars locally) that take their cars home just often enough to avoid having to register their cars here.
A lot of brits would do that if they thought they'd get away with it and it wasn't any effort.Enterprise_1701C wrote: »If they wanted to follow the rules in this country they would register the cars in this country.
Not everyone wants to follow rules, no matter where they were born. People who don't follow the rules won't care that the UK has left the EU.It is almost certain UK will be better off outside the EU in the long run.
Reese Mogg is suggesting 50 years before we're better off. The likelihood by then is that enough leave voters will have died that we'll rejoin anyway.Let's see if Farage brigade and ERG merge into one entity.
That would certainly help, I can't see them being electable and if they are elected then they will sink the country within 5 years.I can seriously see bloodshed if we're not careful.
Project fear continues. We don't give in to terrorists.Everyone is very clear that no deal is bad for the EU as well. You make it sound as if bad for the EU means good for us!
Some people do see this as a replay of WW1 & WW2.From the beginning UK have a lot of bargaining power: e.g. money, People (EU citizen in the UK as bargaining chips), defence and security, intelligent.
How can you look down on EU citizens in the UK so much that you think of them as bargaining chips? How would you feel if we all decided that we were going to strip you of all your rights and legal protection just because of something you had no choice over?Do the people in the UK wanted to be kept humiliated by the EU negotiators ??
I don't feel humiliated by anyone, I'm embarrased to be associated with the people who voted to leave but I can distance myself from them.In more than a decade you will witness who will be laughing.
The rich elite who lied to win the leave vote.Why don't you try posting something sensible for a change.
What I said was true, even if you don't like my light hearted tone.0 -
Perhaps you could link to something you consider silly I posted rather than things you disagree with, there are quite a few remain supporting posters on here who make good comments so I agree with some I don't, but the post I commented on added nothing to debate.Something you could try, too
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Can't really blame them. We've had about 30 months to come up with something so I'm not sure that another couple would make any difference. Someone needs to force the UK [STRIKE]Gov[/STRIKE] Parliament into action.
Amended for you. Not a Pic'n'Mix where you can choose what sweeties you want. There's a bag on the table that is the conclusion of hours of talks. Take it or leave it. Leave it risk the wrath of the UK electorate.0 -
Some people do see this as a replay of WW1 & WW2.
The seeds of WW2 were sown on the back of the oppression imposed following WW1. Many years later. But the issues festered away.
Seems as the world is becoming a less peacefull place again. Was the the UK that divided India. Palestine, Israel , Jordan have the UK's finger prints all over them. Then there's Gilbrater, and of course Ireland........0 -
No it's just your view, I voted remain but I don't think being rude about leave voters achieves anything.
No, I didn't post an opinion.
It's a fact that after leaving the EU the "£350 million a week" will not be available, because we will have to fund UK agencies to replace the ones that were shared with the EU. You have to ignore the downsides of leaving the EU to think there will be any money left.
I'm not saying that all leave voters lack a concept of money, only the ones that voted because of the "£350 million a week". Can you suggest a way of putting that in a way that would achieve something?
What I said about trade deals is obvious.
The human rights that the ECJ enforces (which were based on our ideas) has also been copied by the UN, so if you're trying to leave the EU to get rid of them then it's unlikely to be hugely successful.
The ECJ has been important in enforcing equality laws onto the UK government, I don't believe that leave voters wanted to get rid of the ECJ to increase inequality.0 -
To much emphasis is put on bus I know a lot of people who voted leave and they were not influenced by bus.No, I didn't post an opinion.
It's a fact that after leaving the EU the "£350 million a week" will not be available, because we will have to fund UK agencies to replace the ones that were shared with the EU. You have to ignore the downsides of leaving the EU to think there will be any money left.
I'm not saying that all leave voters lack a concept of money, only the ones that voted because of the "£350 million a week". Can you suggest a way of putting that in a way that would achieve something?0 -
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To much emphasis is put on bus I know a lot of people who voted leave and they were not influenced by bus.
The red bus signifies the lie that there would be a brexit dividend.
If they weren't taken in by the bus, then whose lie were they deceived by? Or did they make it up themselves?
I think it's important that we know. Or are you saying we should try to bend reality to meet their expectation to avoid them feeling bad?0
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