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Fariyqueen said:winther said:In December I sold my 27” monitor on eBay and promptly dispatched to the buyer. After 10 days in the hands of Hermes it still showed as “with parcel shop” although the shop – Doddle in Canary Wharf - confirmed it was picked up the same day. They even called Hermes who confirmed this.
After a long wait on their chat I finally got through to someone confirming the parcel has been “deemed lost” in their depot. From the many complaints I’ve read, seems a lot of parcel go “lost” in the Hermes depot. I ask for the next steps and receive a claims form which has a link to non-compensation items – turns out monitors are one of these items. My claims form was rejected as they "don't compensate for monitors above 21 inch".
This makes sense from the point of view that these items are fragile and can break. Fine. But Hermes are solely responsible for the “loss” (theft) of my item. What they are saying is essentially that Hermes can get away with stealing monitors above 21 inch.
How easy it is to claim no responsibly for certain products and let their staff get away with theft. Absolutely disgusting – how this company is allowed to continue after the proven track record of “lost” parcels is beyond me.
They keep brushing me off using the non-compensation list argument - but does such a list really give them the right to get away with theft?!? I have never been robbed in my 42 years and now I'm expected to shut up and accept it. Not happening. Any idea what I can do as a start?
{Text removed by Forum Team}. Did you see the Channel 4 tv show (Joe Lycett's got your back) last week exposing them of dumping some 10% of parcels, many of which were clearly labelled and could have been delivered, into an auction house in Birmingham on a weekly basis? Do they pay back owners of these 'Missing" parcels, nope, or maybe the standard £20, but if they are able to sell an item of much higher value, where do these sales get recorded and WHY IS THIS COMPANY ALLOWED TO BLATENTLY STEAL AND CARRY ON TRADING?
I sold a shower on eBay, sales value £522, plus £8 postage fees. It never arrived. I had to refund the buyer and am out £530. I've been offered £25 as I hadn't opted for enhanced insurance. Why should we have to pay to protect ourselves from a companies ineptitude at doing their core business?
I really think there must be tens of thousands of us frustrated, disgruntled, customers who've been mugged by Hermes. It would be worth getting a class act together as this loophole of theft must be closed down.
Did you ever get anywhere with your case?
Thanks,
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dacouch said:Fariyqueen said:winther said:In December I sold my 27” monitor on eBay and promptly dispatched to the buyer. After 10 days in the hands of Hermes it still showed as “with parcel shop” although the shop – Doddle in Canary Wharf - confirmed it was picked up the same day. They even called Hermes who confirmed this.
After a long wait on their chat I finally got through to someone confirming the parcel has been “deemed lost” in their depot. From the many complaints I’ve read, seems a lot of parcel go “lost” in the Hermes depot. I ask for the next steps and receive a claims form which has a link to non-compensation items – turns out monitors are one of these items. My claims form was rejected as they "don't compensate for monitors above 21 inch".
This makes sense from the point of view that these items are fragile and can break. Fine. But Hermes are solely responsible for the “loss” (theft) of my item. What they are saying is essentially that Hermes can get away with stealing monitors above 21 inch.
How easy it is to claim no responsibly for certain products and let their staff get away with theft. Absolutely disgusting – how this company is allowed to continue after the proven track record of “lost” parcels is beyond me.
They keep brushing me off using the non-compensation list argument - but does such a list really give them the right to get away with theft?!? I have never been robbed in my 42 years and now I'm expected to shut up and accept it. Not happening. Any idea what I can do as a start?
{Text removed by Forum Team}. Did you see the Channel 4 tv show (Joe Lycett's got your back) last week exposing them of dumping some 10% of parcels, many of which were clearly labelled and could have been delivered, into an auction house in Birmingham on a weekly basis? Do they pay back owners of these 'Missing" parcels, nope, or maybe the standard £20, but if they are able to sell an item of much higher value, where do these sales get recorded and WHY IS THIS COMPANY ALLOWED TO BLATENTLY STEAL AND CARRY ON TRADING?
I sold a shower on eBay, sales value £522, plus £8 postage fees. It never arrived. I had to refund the buyer and am out £530. I've been offered £25 as I hadn't opted for enhanced insurance. Why should we have to pay to protect ourselves from a companies ineptitude at doing their core business?
I really think there must be tens of thousands of us frustrated, disgruntled, customers who've been mugged by Hermes. It would be worth getting a class act together as this loophole of theft must be closed down.
Did you ever get anywhere with your case?
Thanks,
{Text removed by Forum Team}dacouch said:Fariyqueen said:winther said:In December I sold my 27” monitor on eBay and promptly dispatched to the buyer. After 10 days in the hands of Hermes it still showed as “with parcel shop” although the shop – Doddle in Canary Wharf - confirmed it was picked up the same day. They even called Hermes who confirmed this.
After a long wait on their chat I finally got through to someone confirming the parcel has been “deemed lost” in their depot. From the many complaints I’ve read, seems a lot of parcel go “lost” in the Hermes depot. I ask for the next steps and receive a claims form which has a link to non-compensation items – turns out monitors are one of these items. My claims form was rejected as they "don't compensate for monitors above 21 inch".
This makes sense from the point of view that these items are fragile and can break. Fine. But Hermes are solely responsible for the “loss” (theft) of my item. What they are saying is essentially that Hermes can get away with stealing monitors above 21 inch.
How easy it is to claim no responsibly for certain products and let their staff get away with theft. Absolutely disgusting – how this company is allowed to continue after the proven track record of “lost” parcels is beyond me.
They keep brushing me off using the non-compensation list argument - but does such a list really give them the right to get away with theft?!? I have never been robbed in my 42 years and now I'm expected to shut up and accept it. Not happening. Any idea what I can do as a start?
{Text removed by Forum Team}. Did you see the Channel 4 tv show (Joe Lycett's got your back) last week exposing them of dumping some 10% of parcels, many of which were clearly labelled and could have been delivered, into an auction house in Birmingham on a weekly basis? Do they pay back owners of these 'Missing" parcels, nope, or maybe the standard £20, but if they are able to sell an item of much higher value, where do these sales get recorded and WHY IS THIS COMPANY ALLOWED TO BLATENTLY STEAL AND CARRY ON TRADING?
I sold a shower on eBay, sales value £522, plus £8 postage fees. It never arrived. I had to refund the buyer and am out £530. I've been offered £25 as I hadn't opted for enhanced insurance. Why should we have to pay to protect ourselves from a companies ineptitude at doing their core business?
I really think there must be tens of thousands of us frustrated, disgruntled, customers who've been mugged by Hermes. It would be worth getting a class act together as this loophole of theft must be closed down.
Did you ever get anywhere with your case?
Thanks,
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Fariyqueen said:dacouch said:Fariyqueen said:winther said:In December I sold my 27” monitor on eBay and promptly dispatched to the buyer. After 10 days in the hands of Hermes it still showed as “with parcel shop” although the shop – Doddle in Canary Wharf - confirmed it was picked up the same day. They even called Hermes who confirmed this.
After a long wait on their chat I finally got through to someone confirming the parcel has been “deemed lost” in their depot. From the many complaints I’ve read, seems a lot of parcel go “lost” in the Hermes depot. I ask for the next steps and receive a claims form which has a link to non-compensation items – turns out monitors are one of these items. My claims form was rejected as they "don't compensate for monitors above 21 inch".
This makes sense from the point of view that these items are fragile and can break. Fine. But Hermes are solely responsible for the “loss” (theft) of my item. What they are saying is essentially that Hermes can get away with stealing monitors above 21 inch.
How easy it is to claim no responsibly for certain products and let their staff get away with theft. Absolutely disgusting – how this company is allowed to continue after the proven track record of “lost” parcels is beyond me.
They keep brushing me off using the non-compensation list argument - but does such a list really give them the right to get away with theft?!? I have never been robbed in my 42 years and now I'm expected to shut up and accept it. Not happening. Any idea what I can do as a start?
{Text removed by Forum Team}. Did you see the Channel 4 tv show (Joe Lycett's got your back) last week exposing them of dumping some 10% of parcels, many of which were clearly labelled and could have been delivered, into an auction house in Birmingham on a weekly basis? Do they pay back owners of these 'Missing" parcels, nope, or maybe the standard £20, but if they are able to sell an item of much higher value, where do these sales get recorded and WHY IS THIS COMPANY ALLOWED TO BLATENTLY STEAL AND CARRY ON TRADING?
I sold a shower on eBay, sales value £522, plus £8 postage fees. It never arrived. I had to refund the buyer and am out £530. I've been offered £25 as I hadn't opted for enhanced insurance. Why should we have to pay to protect ourselves from a companies ineptitude at doing their core business?
I really think there must be tens of thousands of us frustrated, disgruntled, customers who've been mugged by Hermes. It would be worth getting a class act together as this loophole of theft must be closed down.
Did you ever get anywhere with your case?
Thanks,
{Text removed by Forum Team}dacouch said:Fariyqueen said:winther said:In December I sold my 27” monitor on eBay and promptly dispatched to the buyer. After 10 days in the hands of Hermes it still showed as “with parcel shop” although the shop – Doddle in Canary Wharf - confirmed it was picked up the same day. They even called Hermes who confirmed this.
After a long wait on their chat I finally got through to someone confirming the parcel has been “deemed lost” in their depot. From the many complaints I’ve read, seems a lot of parcel go “lost” in the Hermes depot. I ask for the next steps and receive a claims form which has a link to non-compensation items – turns out monitors are one of these items. My claims form was rejected as they "don't compensate for monitors above 21 inch".
This makes sense from the point of view that these items are fragile and can break. Fine. But Hermes are solely responsible for the “loss” (theft) of my item. What they are saying is essentially that Hermes can get away with stealing monitors above 21 inch.
How easy it is to claim no responsibly for certain products and let their staff get away with theft. Absolutely disgusting – how this company is allowed to continue after the proven track record of “lost” parcels is beyond me.
They keep brushing me off using the non-compensation list argument - but does such a list really give them the right to get away with theft?!? I have never been robbed in my 42 years and now I'm expected to shut up and accept it. Not happening. Any idea what I can do as a start?
{Text removed by Forum Team}. Did you see the Channel 4 tv show (Joe Lycett's got your back) last week exposing them of dumping some 10% of parcels, many of which were clearly labelled and could have been delivered, into an auction house in Birmingham on a weekly basis? Do they pay back owners of these 'Missing" parcels, nope, or maybe the standard £20, but if they are able to sell an item of much higher value, where do these sales get recorded and WHY IS THIS COMPANY ALLOWED TO BLATENTLY STEAL AND CARRY ON TRADING?
I sold a shower on eBay, sales value £522, plus £8 postage fees. It never arrived. I had to refund the buyer and am out £530. I've been offered £25 as I hadn't opted for enhanced insurance. Why should we have to pay to protect ourselves from a companies ineptitude at doing their core business?
I really think there must be tens of thousands of us frustrated, disgruntled, customers who've been mugged by Hermes. It would be worth getting a class act together as this loophole of theft must be closed down.
Did you ever get anywhere with your case?
Thanks,
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They do not lose 10% of their parcels3 -
Why didn't the op pack the parcel properly. He could of cut black bags and use cello tape as packing.0
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Did he note serial number0
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tonyhender said:Why didn't the op pack the parcel properly. He could of cut black bags and use cello tape as packing.0
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Fariyqueen said:dacouch said:Fariyqueen said:winther said:In December I sold my 27” monitor on eBay and promptly dispatched to the buyer. After 10 days in the hands of Hermes it still showed as “with parcel shop” although the shop – Doddle in Canary Wharf - confirmed it was picked up the same day. They even called Hermes who confirmed this.
After a long wait on their chat I finally got through to someone confirming the parcel has been “deemed lost” in their depot. From the many complaints I’ve read, seems a lot of parcel go “lost” in the Hermes depot. I ask for the next steps and receive a claims form which has a link to non-compensation items – turns out monitors are one of these items. My claims form was rejected as they "don't compensate for monitors above 21 inch".
This makes sense from the point of view that these items are fragile and can break. Fine. But Hermes are solely responsible for the “loss” (theft) of my item. What they are saying is essentially that Hermes can get away with stealing monitors above 21 inch.
How easy it is to claim no responsibly for certain products and let their staff get away with theft. Absolutely disgusting – how this company is allowed to continue after the proven track record of “lost” parcels is beyond me.
They keep brushing me off using the non-compensation list argument - but does such a list really give them the right to get away with theft?!? I have never been robbed in my 42 years and now I'm expected to shut up and accept it. Not happening. Any idea what I can do as a start?
{Text removed by Forum Team}. Did you see the Channel 4 tv show (Joe Lycett's got your back) last week exposing them of dumping some 10% of parcels, many of which were clearly labelled and could have been delivered, into an auction house in Birmingham on a weekly basis? Do they pay back owners of these 'Missing" parcels, nope, or maybe the standard £20, but if they are able to sell an item of much higher value, where do these sales get recorded and WHY IS THIS COMPANY ALLOWED TO BLATENTLY STEAL AND CARRY ON TRADING?
I sold a shower on eBay, sales value £522, plus £8 postage fees. It never arrived. I had to refund the buyer and am out £530. I've been offered £25 as I hadn't opted for enhanced insurance. Why should we have to pay to protect ourselves from a companies ineptitude at doing their core business?
I really think there must be tens of thousands of us frustrated, disgruntled, customers who've been mugged by Hermes. It would be worth getting a class act together as this loophole of theft must be closed down.
Did you ever get anywhere with your case?
Thanks,
{Text removed by Forum Team}dacouch said:Fariyqueen said:winther said:In December I sold my 27” monitor on eBay and promptly dispatched to the buyer. After 10 days in the hands of Hermes it still showed as “with parcel shop” although the shop – Doddle in Canary Wharf - confirmed it was picked up the same day. They even called Hermes who confirmed this.
After a long wait on their chat I finally got through to someone confirming the parcel has been “deemed lost” in their depot. From the many complaints I’ve read, seems a lot of parcel go “lost” in the Hermes depot. I ask for the next steps and receive a claims form which has a link to non-compensation items – turns out monitors are one of these items. My claims form was rejected as they "don't compensate for monitors above 21 inch".
This makes sense from the point of view that these items are fragile and can break. Fine. But Hermes are solely responsible for the “loss” (theft) of my item. What they are saying is essentially that Hermes can get away with stealing monitors above 21 inch.
How easy it is to claim no responsibly for certain products and let their staff get away with theft. Absolutely disgusting – how this company is allowed to continue after the proven track record of “lost” parcels is beyond me.
They keep brushing me off using the non-compensation list argument - but does such a list really give them the right to get away with theft?!? I have never been robbed in my 42 years and now I'm expected to shut up and accept it. Not happening. Any idea what I can do as a start?
{Text removed by Forum Team}. Did you see the Channel 4 tv show (Joe Lycett's got your back) last week exposing them of dumping some 10% of parcels, many of which were clearly labelled and could have been delivered, into an auction house in Birmingham on a weekly basis? Do they pay back owners of these 'Missing" parcels, nope, or maybe the standard £20, but if they are able to sell an item of much higher value, where do these sales get recorded and WHY IS THIS COMPANY ALLOWED TO BLATENTLY STEAL AND CARRY ON TRADING?
I sold a shower on eBay, sales value £522, plus £8 postage fees. It never arrived. I had to refund the buyer and am out £530. I've been offered £25 as I hadn't opted for enhanced insurance. Why should we have to pay to protect ourselves from a companies ineptitude at doing their core business?
I really think there must be tens of thousands of us frustrated, disgruntled, customers who've been mugged by Hermes. It would be worth getting a class act together as this loophole of theft must be closed down.
Did you ever get anywhere with your case?
Thanks,
{Text removed by Forum Team}
I am no fan of Hermes and I am sure they are well towards the bottom when it come to customer satisfaction. That said, you can read horror stories about all of the courier firms. Personally I have always found DPD faultless and I am delighted when I find that something is being sent by them. However I have also read rants like yours about DPD and frankly most others.
I suspect Ch4 found one depot where there was a real problem for whatever reason, then scaled the numbers up as if it was equally bad all over the country. It clearly cannot be so as others have pointed out.
Yes, of course it shouldn't happen. However until people are prepared to pay an economic price for these type of services there is no chance of it improving. The vast majority of parcels get through properly, even with Hermes (or whichever is your pet hate). To improve on that overall is going to cost significant money but sadly there will always be some incompetence and dishonesty as there is in all walks of life.0 -
Undervalued said:Fariyqueen said:dacouch said:Fariyqueen said:winther said:In December I sold my 27” monitor on eBay and promptly dispatched to the buyer. After 10 days in the hands of Hermes it still showed as “with parcel shop” although the shop – Doddle in Canary Wharf - confirmed it was picked up the same day. They even called Hermes who confirmed this.
After a long wait on their chat I finally got through to someone confirming the parcel has been “deemed lost” in their depot. From the many complaints I’ve read, seems a lot of parcel go “lost” in the Hermes depot. I ask for the next steps and receive a claims form which has a link to non-compensation items – turns out monitors are one of these items. My claims form was rejected as they "don't compensate for monitors above 21 inch".
This makes sense from the point of view that these items are fragile and can break. Fine. But Hermes are solely responsible for the “loss” (theft) of my item. What they are saying is essentially that Hermes can get away with stealing monitors above 21 inch.
How easy it is to claim no responsibly for certain products and let their staff get away with theft. Absolutely disgusting – how this company is allowed to continue after the proven track record of “lost” parcels is beyond me.
They keep brushing me off using the non-compensation list argument - but does such a list really give them the right to get away with theft?!? I have never been robbed in my 42 years and now I'm expected to shut up and accept it. Not happening. Any idea what I can do as a start?
{Text removed by Forum Team}. Did you see the Channel 4 tv show (Joe Lycett's got your back) last week exposing them of dumping some 10% of parcels, many of which were clearly labelled and could have been delivered, into an auction house in Birmingham on a weekly basis? Do they pay back owners of these 'Missing" parcels, nope, or maybe the standard £20, but if they are able to sell an item of much higher value, where do these sales get recorded and WHY IS THIS COMPANY ALLOWED TO BLATENTLY STEAL AND CARRY ON TRADING?
I sold a shower on eBay, sales value £522, plus £8 postage fees. It never arrived. I had to refund the buyer and am out £530. I've been offered £25 as I hadn't opted for enhanced insurance. Why should we have to pay to protect ourselves from a companies ineptitude at doing their core business?
I really think there must be tens of thousands of us frustrated, disgruntled, customers who've been mugged by Hermes. It would be worth getting a class act together as this loophole of theft must be closed down.
Did you ever get anywhere with your case?
Thanks,
{Text removed by Forum Team}dacouch said:Fariyqueen said:winther said:In December I sold my 27” monitor on eBay and promptly dispatched to the buyer. After 10 days in the hands of Hermes it still showed as “with parcel shop” although the shop – Doddle in Canary Wharf - confirmed it was picked up the same day. They even called Hermes who confirmed this.
After a long wait on their chat I finally got through to someone confirming the parcel has been “deemed lost” in their depot. From the many complaints I’ve read, seems a lot of parcel go “lost” in the Hermes depot. I ask for the next steps and receive a claims form which has a link to non-compensation items – turns out monitors are one of these items. My claims form was rejected as they "don't compensate for monitors above 21 inch".
This makes sense from the point of view that these items are fragile and can break. Fine. But Hermes are solely responsible for the “loss” (theft) of my item. What they are saying is essentially that Hermes can get away with stealing monitors above 21 inch.
How easy it is to claim no responsibly for certain products and let their staff get away with theft. Absolutely disgusting – how this company is allowed to continue after the proven track record of “lost” parcels is beyond me.
They keep brushing me off using the non-compensation list argument - but does such a list really give them the right to get away with theft?!? I have never been robbed in my 42 years and now I'm expected to shut up and accept it. Not happening. Any idea what I can do as a start?
{Text removed by Forum Team}. Did you see the Channel 4 tv show (Joe Lycett's got your back) last week exposing them of dumping some 10% of parcels, many of which were clearly labelled and could have been delivered, into an auction house in Birmingham on a weekly basis? Do they pay back owners of these 'Missing" parcels, nope, or maybe the standard £20, but if they are able to sell an item of much higher value, where do these sales get recorded and WHY IS THIS COMPANY ALLOWED TO BLATENTLY STEAL AND CARRY ON TRADING?
I sold a shower on eBay, sales value £522, plus £8 postage fees. It never arrived. I had to refund the buyer and am out £530. I've been offered £25 as I hadn't opted for enhanced insurance. Why should we have to pay to protect ourselves from a companies ineptitude at doing their core business?
I really think there must be tens of thousands of us frustrated, disgruntled, customers who've been mugged by Hermes. It would be worth getting a class act together as this loophole of theft must be closed down.
Did you ever get anywhere with your case?
Thanks,
{Text removed by Forum Team}
I am no fan of Hermes and I am sure they are well towards the bottom when it come to customer satisfaction. That said, you can read horror stories about all of the courier firms. Personally I have always found DPD faultless and I am delighted when I find that something is being sent by them. However I have also read rants like yours about DPD and frankly most others.
I suspect Ch4 found one depot where there was a real problem for whatever reason, then scaled the numbers up as if it was equally bad all over the country. It clearly cannot be so as others have pointed out.
Yes, of course it shouldn't happen. However until people are prepared to pay an economic price for these type of services there is no chance of it improving. The vast majority of parcels get through properly, even with Hermes (or whichever is your pet hate). To improve on that overall is going to cost significant money but sadly there will always be some incompetence and dishonesty as there is in all walks of life.1 -
JReacher1 said:They confirmed it had reached the depot and did a "depot sweep"
The result was that the parcel was lost. You don't just lose a substantial box housing a 27" monitor, so let's call it what it is. Theft.
Although they have access to the entire chat history, they told my this morning that it never left the parcel shot. That's a blatant lie.
I highly doubt it will turn up - the box was not covered up which revealed that the content was an item on their non-compensation list. When these items go "lost" the customer can make no claim - surely whoever handled my parcel knew that. Lesson learned, but it's not over.
If anything, I will keep them busy on the chat for a long time.
I don't agree it is a lie, it is a mistake from the CSO agent but why would someone on live chat lie to you about something that is easy for you to call them up on?
It seems obvious that they just didn't read the chat history and just checked the tracking which you yourself admit is wrong.0 -
Well seems we have a company who belive they are above the law, and there employees can steal from peoples parcels. Thing is.. This time you have dipped your fingers into one of my customers parcels and taken the lot. Leaving placemats. A 15kilo box down to nothing. You will not answer my calls or emails and the ceo is avoiding his email. So I guess I will turn up at your depot in Exeter. Be seeing you soon.0
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